▲ 154 ▼ Elon Musk gives X employees one year to replace your bank (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by alyaza@beehaw.org [M] to c/technology@beehaw.org 68 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm torn between wanting him to go hard on this so I can watch it burn and being terrified he'll somehow succeed and it will be hard to avoid. It's already painful to stay out of Facebook's clutches. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) It’s already painful to stay out of Facebook’s clutches. How so? NoScript and a pihole make it pretty darn easy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because of the number of groups that literally only communicate via Facebook and Facebook marketplace replacing everything else like it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] villasv@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) In my case, that but WhatsApp. Can't live without it, as much as I'd like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Don't you feel that WhatsApp is sufficiently insulated from the normal practices of Facebook/Meta/the Zuckerverse though? Perhaps it's my naivety, but I've never really seen the point of them owning WhatsApp, especially since it integrated e2e encryption and has fought the EU to keep it. From an end-user perspective, it's just a pretty polished, widely used (and thus useful), and decently private/secure messaging application. I could see the appeal of moving to a Signal, Session, etc., except for their relatively low uptake among the general public where I am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I've just seen the actions Meta's taken, and as such I believe nothing they say. I was on my family's WhatsApp group chat until the buyout. SMS is fine for most things domestically. Signal's there for international and edge cases. Most of my family are on Signal; there's just not a group there, and I view this as a feature. permalink fedilink source parent [–] villasv@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a decent app with less overreach seeping in from Meta compared with Facebook, Instagram and Threads. Still, it makes me uncomfortable that many communities that I value greatly would be out of my reach if it were to stop using it. For now it's not a problem, but I'm hyper-aware of the danger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bermuda@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* this genuinely made getting an apartment such a total nightmare. Every "group" online for finding apartments in my city is Facebook only. Sure, craigslist works but it's filled with out-of-date realty company spam. If you want to avoid facebook the easiest way is just word of mouth but that's difficult for people moving in from out of town. I ended up getting my current place by emailing a guy who I heard about from a friend. permalink fedilink source parent [–] irasponsible@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In some places Messenger is the default communications platform, more so than SMS or WhatsApp or iMessage or whathaveyou. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zhunk@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago ...Meta owns Whatsapp permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) It’s already painful to stay out of Facebook’s clutches. How so? NoScript and a pihole make it pretty darn easy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because of the number of groups that literally only communicate via Facebook and Facebook marketplace replacing everything else like it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] villasv@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) In my case, that but WhatsApp. Can't live without it, as much as I'd like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Don't you feel that WhatsApp is sufficiently insulated from the normal practices of Facebook/Meta/the Zuckerverse though? Perhaps it's my naivety, but I've never really seen the point of them owning WhatsApp, especially since it integrated e2e encryption and has fought the EU to keep it. From an end-user perspective, it's just a pretty polished, widely used (and thus useful), and decently private/secure messaging application. I could see the appeal of moving to a Signal, Session, etc., except for their relatively low uptake among the general public where I am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I've just seen the actions Meta's taken, and as such I believe nothing they say. I was on my family's WhatsApp group chat until the buyout. SMS is fine for most things domestically. Signal's there for international and edge cases. Most of my family are on Signal; there's just not a group there, and I view this as a feature. permalink fedilink source parent [–] villasv@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a decent app with less overreach seeping in from Meta compared with Facebook, Instagram and Threads. Still, it makes me uncomfortable that many communities that I value greatly would be out of my reach if it were to stop using it. For now it's not a problem, but I'm hyper-aware of the danger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bermuda@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* this genuinely made getting an apartment such a total nightmare. Every "group" online for finding apartments in my city is Facebook only. Sure, craigslist works but it's filled with out-of-date realty company spam. If you want to avoid facebook the easiest way is just word of mouth but that's difficult for people moving in from out of town. I ended up getting my current place by emailing a guy who I heard about from a friend. permalink fedilink source parent [–] irasponsible@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In some places Messenger is the default communications platform, more so than SMS or WhatsApp or iMessage or whathaveyou. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zhunk@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago ...Meta owns Whatsapp permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because of the number of groups that literally only communicate via Facebook and Facebook marketplace replacing everything else like it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] villasv@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) In my case, that but WhatsApp. Can't live without it, as much as I'd like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Don't you feel that WhatsApp is sufficiently insulated from the normal practices of Facebook/Meta/the Zuckerverse though? Perhaps it's my naivety, but I've never really seen the point of them owning WhatsApp, especially since it integrated e2e encryption and has fought the EU to keep it. From an end-user perspective, it's just a pretty polished, widely used (and thus useful), and decently private/secure messaging application. I could see the appeal of moving to a Signal, Session, etc., except for their relatively low uptake among the general public where I am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I've just seen the actions Meta's taken, and as such I believe nothing they say. I was on my family's WhatsApp group chat until the buyout. SMS is fine for most things domestically. Signal's there for international and edge cases. Most of my family are on Signal; there's just not a group there, and I view this as a feature. permalink fedilink source parent [–] villasv@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a decent app with less overreach seeping in from Meta compared with Facebook, Instagram and Threads. Still, it makes me uncomfortable that many communities that I value greatly would be out of my reach if it were to stop using it. For now it's not a problem, but I'm hyper-aware of the danger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bermuda@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* this genuinely made getting an apartment such a total nightmare. Every "group" online for finding apartments in my city is Facebook only. Sure, craigslist works but it's filled with out-of-date realty company spam. If you want to avoid facebook the easiest way is just word of mouth but that's difficult for people moving in from out of town. I ended up getting my current place by emailing a guy who I heard about from a friend. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] villasv@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) In my case, that but WhatsApp. Can't live without it, as much as I'd like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Don't you feel that WhatsApp is sufficiently insulated from the normal practices of Facebook/Meta/the Zuckerverse though? Perhaps it's my naivety, but I've never really seen the point of them owning WhatsApp, especially since it integrated e2e encryption and has fought the EU to keep it. From an end-user perspective, it's just a pretty polished, widely used (and thus useful), and decently private/secure messaging application. I could see the appeal of moving to a Signal, Session, etc., except for their relatively low uptake among the general public where I am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I've just seen the actions Meta's taken, and as such I believe nothing they say. I was on my family's WhatsApp group chat until the buyout. SMS is fine for most things domestically. Signal's there for international and edge cases. Most of my family are on Signal; there's just not a group there, and I view this as a feature. permalink fedilink source parent [–] villasv@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a decent app with less overreach seeping in from Meta compared with Facebook, Instagram and Threads. Still, it makes me uncomfortable that many communities that I value greatly would be out of my reach if it were to stop using it. For now it's not a problem, but I'm hyper-aware of the danger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Don't you feel that WhatsApp is sufficiently insulated from the normal practices of Facebook/Meta/the Zuckerverse though? Perhaps it's my naivety, but I've never really seen the point of them owning WhatsApp, especially since it integrated e2e encryption and has fought the EU to keep it. From an end-user perspective, it's just a pretty polished, widely used (and thus useful), and decently private/secure messaging application. I could see the appeal of moving to a Signal, Session, etc., except for their relatively low uptake among the general public where I am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I've just seen the actions Meta's taken, and as such I believe nothing they say. I was on my family's WhatsApp group chat until the buyout. SMS is fine for most things domestically. Signal's there for international and edge cases. Most of my family are on Signal; there's just not a group there, and I view this as a feature. permalink fedilink source parent [–] villasv@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a decent app with less overreach seeping in from Meta compared with Facebook, Instagram and Threads. Still, it makes me uncomfortable that many communities that I value greatly would be out of my reach if it were to stop using it. For now it's not a problem, but I'm hyper-aware of the danger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I've just seen the actions Meta's taken, and as such I believe nothing they say. I was on my family's WhatsApp group chat until the buyout. SMS is fine for most things domestically. Signal's there for international and edge cases. Most of my family are on Signal; there's just not a group there, and I view this as a feature. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] villasv@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* Yeah, it's a decent app with less overreach seeping in from Meta compared with Facebook, Instagram and Threads. Still, it makes me uncomfortable that many communities that I value greatly would be out of my reach if it were to stop using it. For now it's not a problem, but I'm hyper-aware of the danger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* this genuinely made getting an apartment such a total nightmare. Every "group" online for finding apartments in my city is Facebook only. Sure, craigslist works but it's filled with out-of-date realty company spam. If you want to avoid facebook the easiest way is just word of mouth but that's difficult for people moving in from out of town. I ended up getting my current place by emailing a guy who I heard about from a friend. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irasponsible@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In some places Messenger is the default communications platform, more so than SMS or WhatsApp or iMessage or whathaveyou. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zhunk@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago ...Meta owns Whatsapp permalink fedilink source parent