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‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens (www.theonion.com)
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[–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

What about nations that ban guns but have higher homicide rates than Japan or even the U.S.?

The only countries that fit this definition outside Central/South America and Sub-Saharian Africa are Russia, Myanmar, Papua New Guinea, Palau and Kiribati.

Literally all of Europe and all of Asia with a functioning democracy have a lower homicide rate than the US. I wouldn’t really call that “cherrypicking”.

Is that what you’re comparing to? You think the US police would be as bad at enforcing a gun control law as the one in Kiribati?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    So... what you're telling me is it's not just the guns. It's their culture.

    Interesting. I guess we can agree that banning guns doesn't actually reduce homicide rates if the nation has people who want to kill each other.

    I wouldn’t really call that “cherrypicking”.

    Lol, so ignoring everything that goes against your argument isn't cherrypicking? Dang. Stay in school, son.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wow, didn’t know that the entire civilized world except the US has absolutely no desire to kill each other, and all of the underdeveloped countries are full of bloodthirsty assassins.

    Guess the very similar culture of Japan, Italy and Australia must be the cause.

    It almost feels like the countries with high homicide rate despite the gun laws could have some correlation to being less civilized places with high corruption and/or inefficient law enforcement, but you definitely know better than me I guess.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Dang, there you go thinking in absolutes because you want to avoid information that goes against your arguments.

    You mentioned homicide rates. They're not 0 on any of the continents you mentioned. Why are you arguing against me as though I think there's no desire to kill in the nations you mentioned?

    Homicide rates are lower in some nations than others, regardless of gun laws, because of their culture. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

    This is my point. You will avoid any information that contradicts what you want to believe and then get mad when people don't live in your fantasy world.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That’s literally what you said.

    banning guns doesn’t actually reduce homicide rates if the nation has people who want to kill each other.

    That means all first world nations with gun control laws “coincidentally” also have no people who want to kill each other (or disregarding the hyperbole, way less people who want to kill each other, which is still unrealistic).

    And again, saying “because of their culture” makes no sense when countries with low homicide rates have drastically different cultures. Like, the only thing Italy and Japan have in common is probably the fact that they have a deeply ingrained organized crime, and I really don’t think that’s a factor that would lower homicides. Unless “their culture” means literally “not being the USA” I don’t see how it holds any ground.

    Care to mention a first world country with no gun control and low homicide rates? Or one with gun control but high rates? Because if you find none I really think it’s not a “cultural issue”.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    banning guns doesn’t actually reduce homicide rates if the nation has people who want to kill each other.

    You're right. I thought you were smarter enough to equate lower desire to kill to lower homicide rates.

    My bad.

    (or disregarding the hyperbole, way less people who want to kill each other, which is still unrealistic).

    Then what is it? Why do these nations have lower homicide rates than other countries that have identical gun laws if it isn't their culture?

    And again, saying “because of their culture” makes no sense when countries with low homicide rates have drastically different cultures.

    Okay buddy, there you go ignoring information that contradicts your argument again. Culture is more than just the desire to kill one another, lol.

    Care to mention a first world country with no gun control and low homicide rates? Or one with gun control but high rates? Because if you find none I really think it’s not a “cultural issue”.

    You've already admitted it's a cultural issue when you specified 'first world'. This means that you think there's more to homicide rates than banning guns, which is exactly my point from the very beginning. It's culture, not guns. You're trying to cherrypick, again, by ignoring entire continents that go against your incorrect assertion that banning guns equates to lower homicide rates.

    Anyways man, it's becoming increasingly obvious that you're just going to twist your brain into knots to avoid admitting when you're wrong. I see it all the time, and the only winning move is not to play.

    I'm gonna block you now. Have a nice day, and stay in school.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    LALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU

    -People who end conversations with “I’m gonna block you now”.

    Also love how they had to make the joke about “staying in school” twice because if I ignored it the first time it’s definitely going to sting the second one.

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