How do you figure? As far as I can tell, that conversation happens all the damn time. Not among anyone who SHOULD be having it, but I hear it happen all the time regardless. But you knew that... Same as you knew that there's an abundance of evidence to prove your sarcasm is seriously unfounded because there's PLENTY of evidence of both of those things being a thing. I'm beginning to believe that some people are intentionally creating straw man arguments and being deliberately hyperbolic while presenting their arguments as rational and balanced. Weird.