▲ 361 ▼ Lewiston, Maine shootings leave at least 16 dead (www.cnn.com) submitted 2 years ago by farcaster@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 118 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Bill Clinton banned assault weapons in 1994; mass shootings dropped by 43%. George W. Bush and the GOP let the assault weapons ban expire in 2004; mass shootings increased by 245%. These numbers tell the whole story. https://elk.zone/mstdn.social/@Strandjunker/111301755969285547 https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819576527 edit: more simply: https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819576527 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That wasn't a prohibition though, I was referring to any number of actual prohibitions. Like alcohol in the 20s and such. There's no denying taking something built to kill away can reduce said killings and I'm very much for sane, logical gun control. However, the point is that all out prohibition is neither historically or even mathematically feasible considering there are more of them than actual Americans (another problem we have). Do you understand the nuance? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No they didn't, because they weren't really a thing at the time...also columbine and VT happened with handguns during the AWB....it was sunset because it didn't do anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Are you refuting these stats and do you want to provide a source for that? Also, saying that some gun violence happened so that means gun control doesn't work is nonsense. It's like "well some died in a car crash so seat belts and airbags don't work." The facts on this one just aren't on your side. Looking at this either way - the US is a third world country when it comes to gun violence, and secondarily, countries with relatively little to no gun control have extreme rates of gun violence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That wasn't a prohibition though, I was referring to any number of actual prohibitions. Like alcohol in the 20s and such. There's no denying taking something built to kill away can reduce said killings and I'm very much for sane, logical gun control. However, the point is that all out prohibition is neither historically or even mathematically feasible considering there are more of them than actual Americans (another problem we have). Do you understand the nuance? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No they didn't, because they weren't really a thing at the time...also columbine and VT happened with handguns during the AWB....it was sunset because it didn't do anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Are you refuting these stats and do you want to provide a source for that? Also, saying that some gun violence happened so that means gun control doesn't work is nonsense. It's like "well some died in a car crash so seat belts and airbags don't work." The facts on this one just aren't on your side. Looking at this either way - the US is a third world country when it comes to gun violence, and secondarily, countries with relatively little to no gun control have extreme rates of gun violence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Are you refuting these stats and do you want to provide a source for that? Also, saying that some gun violence happened so that means gun control doesn't work is nonsense. It's like "well some died in a car crash so seat belts and airbags don't work." The facts on this one just aren't on your side. Looking at this either way - the US is a third world country when it comes to gun violence, and secondarily, countries with relatively little to no gun control have extreme rates of gun violence. permalink fedilink source parent