▲ 350 ▼ What are some companies that deserve to be boycotted to death? (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by erik111189@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 334 comments fedilink hide all child comments So far my list includes Comcast, EA, and Nestle. Tell me yours, and I'll help out.
[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) Spotify permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rendh@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean fucking over people is bad but surely fucking over musicians is a lot less evil than Nestlé willingly murdering habies and draining wells for profit, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh for sure! I'm not saying Spotify is the most evil company, just that it's evil. But Shell is a company with loads of deaths on its name, hiring killing squads etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Spotify is the reason music industry is not dying. Without it you will pay 60 bucks for a goddamn album. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yarrr. I've not taken part myself, but I hear there be extremely affordable ways to obtain digital files in this age. Spotify is a last gross gasp of the dying music industrial complex, before direct payments for early access, directly to artists, becomes the primary form of music sales. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iegod@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't think that will happen so smoothly. People will go where it is easiest to one stop shop. I'm not jumping to multiple artists pages or different delivery services/shops when it's all available at once, together, curated, with algorithmic lists and suggestions for new content. Sorry man the more I realize what Spotify and yt music offer the funnier the suggestions people would go straight to artists. Artists can't offer all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* None of it is going to be smooth. I'm all for paying for a discovery algorithm, and Spotify has a good one. But as Google found out, staying the top player in a discovery space is hard. A serious risk that Spotify faces is that new federated social networks are popping up, with great support for finding new artists. Without the Discovery portion of Spotify, and with the constant pressure by record labels to enshittify the service, I don't see a long runway ahead for Spotify. The new default is going to be piracy, again. (The old default was piracy, before streaming got good.) The paid option will be patronage. Then we will see massive amounts of bundling in the patronage services, as they re-discover that people are willing to pay for a discovery service. If the record labels even still exist at that point, they will pressure the bundled patronage services to enshittify, and the dance will start over at piracy. For anyone on the selling side who wants to skip a step or win for awhile, here's the lesson: You can't sell digital files. You never could - not from day one. You can only sell easy access and discovery. Digital files are the ulitmate perfectly elastic good, and the consumer community will swing back and forth into piracy or paying, based on how well they are treated as customers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rendh@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean fucking over people is bad but surely fucking over musicians is a lot less evil than Nestlé willingly murdering habies and draining wells for profit, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh for sure! I'm not saying Spotify is the most evil company, just that it's evil. But Shell is a company with loads of deaths on its name, hiring killing squads etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh for sure! I'm not saying Spotify is the most evil company, just that it's evil. But Shell is a company with loads of deaths on its name, hiring killing squads etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Spotify is the reason music industry is not dying. Without it you will pay 60 bucks for a goddamn album. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yarrr. I've not taken part myself, but I hear there be extremely affordable ways to obtain digital files in this age. Spotify is a last gross gasp of the dying music industrial complex, before direct payments for early access, directly to artists, becomes the primary form of music sales. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iegod@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't think that will happen so smoothly. People will go where it is easiest to one stop shop. I'm not jumping to multiple artists pages or different delivery services/shops when it's all available at once, together, curated, with algorithmic lists and suggestions for new content. Sorry man the more I realize what Spotify and yt music offer the funnier the suggestions people would go straight to artists. Artists can't offer all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* None of it is going to be smooth. I'm all for paying for a discovery algorithm, and Spotify has a good one. But as Google found out, staying the top player in a discovery space is hard. A serious risk that Spotify faces is that new federated social networks are popping up, with great support for finding new artists. Without the Discovery portion of Spotify, and with the constant pressure by record labels to enshittify the service, I don't see a long runway ahead for Spotify. The new default is going to be piracy, again. (The old default was piracy, before streaming got good.) The paid option will be patronage. Then we will see massive amounts of bundling in the patronage services, as they re-discover that people are willing to pay for a discovery service. If the record labels even still exist at that point, they will pressure the bundled patronage services to enshittify, and the dance will start over at piracy. For anyone on the selling side who wants to skip a step or win for awhile, here's the lesson: You can't sell digital files. You never could - not from day one. You can only sell easy access and discovery. Digital files are the ulitmate perfectly elastic good, and the consumer community will swing back and forth into piracy or paying, based on how well they are treated as customers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yarrr. I've not taken part myself, but I hear there be extremely affordable ways to obtain digital files in this age. Spotify is a last gross gasp of the dying music industrial complex, before direct payments for early access, directly to artists, becomes the primary form of music sales. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iegod@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't think that will happen so smoothly. People will go where it is easiest to one stop shop. I'm not jumping to multiple artists pages or different delivery services/shops when it's all available at once, together, curated, with algorithmic lists and suggestions for new content. Sorry man the more I realize what Spotify and yt music offer the funnier the suggestions people would go straight to artists. Artists can't offer all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* None of it is going to be smooth. I'm all for paying for a discovery algorithm, and Spotify has a good one. But as Google found out, staying the top player in a discovery space is hard. A serious risk that Spotify faces is that new federated social networks are popping up, with great support for finding new artists. Without the Discovery portion of Spotify, and with the constant pressure by record labels to enshittify the service, I don't see a long runway ahead for Spotify. The new default is going to be piracy, again. (The old default was piracy, before streaming got good.) The paid option will be patronage. Then we will see massive amounts of bundling in the patronage services, as they re-discover that people are willing to pay for a discovery service. If the record labels even still exist at that point, they will pressure the bundled patronage services to enshittify, and the dance will start over at piracy. For anyone on the selling side who wants to skip a step or win for awhile, here's the lesson: You can't sell digital files. You never could - not from day one. You can only sell easy access and discovery. Digital files are the ulitmate perfectly elastic good, and the consumer community will swing back and forth into piracy or paying, based on how well they are treated as customers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iegod@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't think that will happen so smoothly. People will go where it is easiest to one stop shop. I'm not jumping to multiple artists pages or different delivery services/shops when it's all available at once, together, curated, with algorithmic lists and suggestions for new content. Sorry man the more I realize what Spotify and yt music offer the funnier the suggestions people would go straight to artists. Artists can't offer all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* None of it is going to be smooth. I'm all for paying for a discovery algorithm, and Spotify has a good one. But as Google found out, staying the top player in a discovery space is hard. A serious risk that Spotify faces is that new federated social networks are popping up, with great support for finding new artists. Without the Discovery portion of Spotify, and with the constant pressure by record labels to enshittify the service, I don't see a long runway ahead for Spotify. The new default is going to be piracy, again. (The old default was piracy, before streaming got good.) The paid option will be patronage. Then we will see massive amounts of bundling in the patronage services, as they re-discover that people are willing to pay for a discovery service. If the record labels even still exist at that point, they will pressure the bundled patronage services to enshittify, and the dance will start over at piracy. For anyone on the selling side who wants to skip a step or win for awhile, here's the lesson: You can't sell digital files. You never could - not from day one. You can only sell easy access and discovery. Digital files are the ulitmate perfectly elastic good, and the consumer community will swing back and forth into piracy or paying, based on how well they are treated as customers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* None of it is going to be smooth. I'm all for paying for a discovery algorithm, and Spotify has a good one. But as Google found out, staying the top player in a discovery space is hard. A serious risk that Spotify faces is that new federated social networks are popping up, with great support for finding new artists. Without the Discovery portion of Spotify, and with the constant pressure by record labels to enshittify the service, I don't see a long runway ahead for Spotify. The new default is going to be piracy, again. (The old default was piracy, before streaming got good.) The paid option will be patronage. Then we will see massive amounts of bundling in the patronage services, as they re-discover that people are willing to pay for a discovery service. If the record labels even still exist at that point, they will pressure the bundled patronage services to enshittify, and the dance will start over at piracy. For anyone on the selling side who wants to skip a step or win for awhile, here's the lesson: You can't sell digital files. You never could - not from day one. You can only sell easy access and discovery. Digital files are the ulitmate perfectly elastic good, and the consumer community will swing back and forth into piracy or paying, based on how well they are treated as customers. permalink fedilink source parent