▲ 1592 ▼ Kick tankies out of 196 (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 2 years ago by Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone 737 comments fedilink hide all child comments Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.
[–] doidera@lemmy.eco.br 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) forcing Lenin to order Trotsky Sources? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LazyCorvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) What exactly do you want a source for? The claim that the soviets caused the conflict because of "material conditions" was a joke that was meant to make fun of tankies. But you quoted "forcing Lenin to order Trotsky", which is why I don't exactly know if that's what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] doidera@lemmy.eco.br 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] CatradoraSomething@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The claim that the soviets caused the conflict because of “material conditions” was a joke that was meant to make fun of tankies. ive never heard this claim, it was a civil war, anarchists weren't exactly all nice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LazyCorvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* The anarchists worked together with the soviets, going as far as actually being a part of the red army and fighting together against the whites. Tensions between the two groups only rose because bolchevik commanders repeatedly attacked their autonomy. That unity lasted until the reds had beaten the whites in moscow, after which they just invaded the Makhnovshchina. The anarchists weren't all that nice and had oftentimes critiqued the bolshevists way of implementing communism, but they still worked together and tried to work with the Bolsheviks on equal footing. The Bolsheviks on the other hand repeatedly tried to undermine their autonomy and just betrayed them as soon as they thought that they didn't need them anymore and thus caused a civil war that killed 1.5 million people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LazyCorvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) What exactly do you want a source for? The claim that the soviets caused the conflict because of "material conditions" was a joke that was meant to make fun of tankies. But you quoted "forcing Lenin to order Trotsky", which is why I don't exactly know if that's what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] doidera@lemmy.eco.br 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] CatradoraSomething@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The claim that the soviets caused the conflict because of “material conditions” was a joke that was meant to make fun of tankies. ive never heard this claim, it was a civil war, anarchists weren't exactly all nice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LazyCorvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* The anarchists worked together with the soviets, going as far as actually being a part of the red army and fighting together against the whites. Tensions between the two groups only rose because bolchevik commanders repeatedly attacked their autonomy. That unity lasted until the reds had beaten the whites in moscow, after which they just invaded the Makhnovshchina. The anarchists weren't all that nice and had oftentimes critiqued the bolshevists way of implementing communism, but they still worked together and tried to work with the Bolsheviks on equal footing. The Bolsheviks on the other hand repeatedly tried to undermine their autonomy and just betrayed them as soon as they thought that they didn't need them anymore and thus caused a civil war that killed 1.5 million people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CatradoraSomething@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The claim that the soviets caused the conflict because of “material conditions” was a joke that was meant to make fun of tankies. ive never heard this claim, it was a civil war, anarchists weren't exactly all nice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LazyCorvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* The anarchists worked together with the soviets, going as far as actually being a part of the red army and fighting together against the whites. Tensions between the two groups only rose because bolchevik commanders repeatedly attacked their autonomy. That unity lasted until the reds had beaten the whites in moscow, after which they just invaded the Makhnovshchina. The anarchists weren't all that nice and had oftentimes critiqued the bolshevists way of implementing communism, but they still worked together and tried to work with the Bolsheviks on equal footing. The Bolsheviks on the other hand repeatedly tried to undermine their autonomy and just betrayed them as soon as they thought that they didn't need them anymore and thus caused a civil war that killed 1.5 million people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LazyCorvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* The anarchists worked together with the soviets, going as far as actually being a part of the red army and fighting together against the whites. Tensions between the two groups only rose because bolchevik commanders repeatedly attacked their autonomy. That unity lasted until the reds had beaten the whites in moscow, after which they just invaded the Makhnovshchina. The anarchists weren't all that nice and had oftentimes critiqued the bolshevists way of implementing communism, but they still worked together and tried to work with the Bolsheviks on equal footing. The Bolsheviks on the other hand repeatedly tried to undermine their autonomy and just betrayed them as soon as they thought that they didn't need them anymore and thus caused a civil war that killed 1.5 million people. permalink fedilink source parent