▲ 1591 ▼ Kick tankies out of 196 (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 2 years ago by Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone 737 comments fedilink hide all child comments Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.
[+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm arguing that communism could work and that not working in our world doesn't disprove it, for all that matters. I also think that the concept of failure needs a little attention, I mean you could argue that democracy failed too, it's supposed to give everyone an equal voice in the system and yet rich people have an incomparably stronger pull on elections and therefore decisions. I would argue that humans value collectivism more than individualism, the last few centuries would see to go against this notion but for most of humanity we have lived in close knitted communities and valued our dépendance on each others. Even now the most individualist and powerful human would die in matter of months without help from the community (think of the water distribution and sanitation, no water = no food = death). Thank you for arguing your point though, I appreciate it and it gave me very much food for thought, I'm not even denying that communism failed, it did, it has had its successes but it mostly failed it's purpose, as did democracy. One of them pulled it off better though, of course democracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don't have the foggiest idea what you are even talking about, do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] masquenox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Because humans value brainwashed humans value individualism despite not having a clue what that even means FTFY. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm arguing that communism could work and that not working in our world doesn't disprove it, for all that matters. I also think that the concept of failure needs a little attention, I mean you could argue that democracy failed too, it's supposed to give everyone an equal voice in the system and yet rich people have an incomparably stronger pull on elections and therefore decisions. I would argue that humans value collectivism more than individualism, the last few centuries would see to go against this notion but for most of humanity we have lived in close knitted communities and valued our dépendance on each others. Even now the most individualist and powerful human would die in matter of months without help from the community (think of the water distribution and sanitation, no water = no food = death). Thank you for arguing your point though, I appreciate it and it gave me very much food for thought, I'm not even denying that communism failed, it did, it has had its successes but it mostly failed it's purpose, as did democracy. One of them pulled it off better though, of course democracy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don't have the foggiest idea what you are even talking about, do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don't have the foggiest idea what you are even talking about, do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don't have the foggiest idea what you are even talking about, do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Because humans value brainwashed humans value individualism despite not having a clue what that even means FTFY. permalink fedilink source parent