All the news headlines and verdict said sexual abuse, which was kind of vague, but I just found out today that the judge clarified that this was a matter of legal definition and by the verdict of the trial and the case, trump has been found guilty of penetrative rape.

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[–] [S] 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Few more explanatory quotes - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll

Article says the jury found trump liable for digital(fingers) penetration, but not for irrefutable non-consensual penetration using his penis, which is the only way to legally be found liable for "rape" in NY.

I have not watched or read a transcript of the trial yet, this is a true TIL.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I cannot imagine the ordeal for the victim when a bunch of folks in suits discusses if someone forced his dick inside of you or "just" his fingers...

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago

    Pretty horrifying.

    At least trump was found liable, though. I was thinking of a victim exposing themselves in the courtroom and the countless times a jury finds for the rich douchebag with more lawyers.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    By any other name, would he still be a creep.

    Yes, the answer is yes.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 years ago

    Not a convict because it was a civil case rather than criminal, trump is still a rapist according to a judge and jury.

    I only bring this up so that if you ever get in a debate or someone says he's not a rapist, they can't falsely dismiss that trumpi is a rapist on a technicality within your statement.

    Trump is a rapist.

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