▲ 118 ▼ Police are not primarily crime fighters, according to the data (www.reuters.com) submitted 3 years ago by bboplifa@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 97 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] joyjoy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Some cities have been sued for doing that. You can't face your accuser in court if your accuser is a computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) That doesn't sound right. The accuser is the state regardless, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] braxy29@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) what if your family member or friend was using your car? what if your car was stolen? also, some of those cameras will ticket for legal right on red. they just catch plates and send a ticket in the mail to the registered owner. it's not great. source - i live in a city with these, though state law now means the city can no longer enforce tickets. also, the idea of camera/computer generated rosters of law-breakers is unsettling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago If your car was reported stolen, then you document that and get the ticket canceled. I don't see how the presence of a police officer changes anything about that. I don't have a problem with the owner getting a ticket if someone else was driving. I also, again, don't see how that's relevant. It's not like the police officer is going to remember who was in the car. The camera ticketing for something legal is a technical issue that should be fixed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sort of, the idea is that you can face the citing officer in court. Granted, all the officer has to do is lie and the judge is likely to side with them over a rando citizen, but that's the intent of the law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago I don't understand why that's important. The officer is just a biological camera. They're there to document what you did wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) That doesn't sound right. The accuser is the state regardless, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] braxy29@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) what if your family member or friend was using your car? what if your car was stolen? also, some of those cameras will ticket for legal right on red. they just catch plates and send a ticket in the mail to the registered owner. it's not great. source - i live in a city with these, though state law now means the city can no longer enforce tickets. also, the idea of camera/computer generated rosters of law-breakers is unsettling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago If your car was reported stolen, then you document that and get the ticket canceled. I don't see how the presence of a police officer changes anything about that. I don't have a problem with the owner getting a ticket if someone else was driving. I also, again, don't see how that's relevant. It's not like the police officer is going to remember who was in the car. The camera ticketing for something legal is a technical issue that should be fixed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sort of, the idea is that you can face the citing officer in court. Granted, all the officer has to do is lie and the judge is likely to side with them over a rando citizen, but that's the intent of the law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago I don't understand why that's important. The officer is just a biological camera. They're there to document what you did wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) what if your family member or friend was using your car? what if your car was stolen? also, some of those cameras will ticket for legal right on red. they just catch plates and send a ticket in the mail to the registered owner. it's not great. source - i live in a city with these, though state law now means the city can no longer enforce tickets. also, the idea of camera/computer generated rosters of law-breakers is unsettling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago If your car was reported stolen, then you document that and get the ticket canceled. I don't see how the presence of a police officer changes anything about that. I don't have a problem with the owner getting a ticket if someone else was driving. I also, again, don't see how that's relevant. It's not like the police officer is going to remember who was in the car. The camera ticketing for something legal is a technical issue that should be fixed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago If your car was reported stolen, then you document that and get the ticket canceled. I don't see how the presence of a police officer changes anything about that. I don't have a problem with the owner getting a ticket if someone else was driving. I also, again, don't see how that's relevant. It's not like the police officer is going to remember who was in the car. The camera ticketing for something legal is a technical issue that should be fixed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sort of, the idea is that you can face the citing officer in court. Granted, all the officer has to do is lie and the judge is likely to side with them over a rando citizen, but that's the intent of the law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago I don't understand why that's important. The officer is just a biological camera. They're there to document what you did wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago I don't understand why that's important. The officer is just a biological camera. They're there to document what you did wrong. permalink fedilink source parent