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[+] Fal@yiffit.net -39 points 2 years ago (2 children) Are you kidding? It's totally common for hotels to charge 50 bucks a night in bullshit fees permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (4 children) I have never had a hotel charge bullshit fees. Rental rate and tax are all I have ever paid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] witten@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phx@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago Parking (at a remote resort with no other reasonable way of accessing) comes to mind as one of the bullshit'ish fees I've had to pay, but most of the rest are usually fees passed up from the municipality etc permalink fedilink source parent [–] oleorun@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago Big city mandatory valet comes to my mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the US it is common to have an amenities fee that you will only know, in most cases, the day of your check in. The fee applies whether you use the amenities or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) California just passed a law banning any mandatory fee if it isn't included in the advertised rates; the ban goes into force starting middle of next year. https://www.frommers.com/blogs/arthur-frommer-online/blog_posts/california-bans-deceptive-resort-fees-see-what-s-affected-and-when The new law, which takes effect on July 1, 2024, "make[s] unlawful advertising, displaying, or offering a price for a good or service that does not include all mandatory fees or charges other than taxes or fees imposed by a government on the transaction." If a fee is not optional and cannot be removed from a bill, the fee has to be disclosed from the top. That being said, I would imagine that there is some wiggle room on "mandatory". Like, a hotel is going to be allowed to charge for use of items in a minibar, for example -- that's not a mandatory fee. I don't know what the bar is for notification that a given action will incur a fee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's great for California. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago* Right turn on red didn't exist anywhere until some states started allowing it; a lot of people thought that it would be too dangerous. Then it worked out okay, and other states added it, and eventually essentially everyone was doing it. Just saying that it sounds like the direction things are going right now is to legislatively-restricting what hotels can charge without disclosure. From my skim online, it sounds like the addition of hotel fees like this is relatively recent, and so this is something of a backlash. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago California is so big that often, when they make a law, companies follow it nationally. It can be cheaper than having to maintain different rules for sifferent states permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ambiorickx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Around 2004-5 I regularly stayed at a large chain hotel near Tucson airport (something like Doubletree, but I’m not sure if it was that one). They charged a daily fee for the phone in your room. Not for using it, mind you, just for the phone being there. And no, they did not have rooms without phones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jamie@jamie.moe 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Last week I stayed in a hotel for 3 days at a said and done price that was still about $100 cheaper than this 2 night Airbnb's base price, not even adding in their fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fal@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago Ok? That tells us nothing without comparing location, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (4 children) I have never had a hotel charge bullshit fees. Rental rate and tax are all I have ever paid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] witten@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phx@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago Parking (at a remote resort with no other reasonable way of accessing) comes to mind as one of the bullshit'ish fees I've had to pay, but most of the rest are usually fees passed up from the municipality etc permalink fedilink source parent [–] oleorun@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago Big city mandatory valet comes to my mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the US it is common to have an amenities fee that you will only know, in most cases, the day of your check in. The fee applies whether you use the amenities or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) California just passed a law banning any mandatory fee if it isn't included in the advertised rates; the ban goes into force starting middle of next year. https://www.frommers.com/blogs/arthur-frommer-online/blog_posts/california-bans-deceptive-resort-fees-see-what-s-affected-and-when The new law, which takes effect on July 1, 2024, "make[s] unlawful advertising, displaying, or offering a price for a good or service that does not include all mandatory fees or charges other than taxes or fees imposed by a government on the transaction." If a fee is not optional and cannot be removed from a bill, the fee has to be disclosed from the top. That being said, I would imagine that there is some wiggle room on "mandatory". Like, a hotel is going to be allowed to charge for use of items in a minibar, for example -- that's not a mandatory fee. I don't know what the bar is for notification that a given action will incur a fee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's great for California. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago* Right turn on red didn't exist anywhere until some states started allowing it; a lot of people thought that it would be too dangerous. Then it worked out okay, and other states added it, and eventually essentially everyone was doing it. Just saying that it sounds like the direction things are going right now is to legislatively-restricting what hotels can charge without disclosure. From my skim online, it sounds like the addition of hotel fees like this is relatively recent, and so this is something of a backlash. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago California is so big that often, when they make a law, companies follow it nationally. It can be cheaper than having to maintain different rules for sifferent states permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ambiorickx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Around 2004-5 I regularly stayed at a large chain hotel near Tucson airport (something like Doubletree, but I’m not sure if it was that one). They charged a daily fee for the phone in your room. Not for using it, mind you, just for the phone being there. And no, they did not have rooms without phones. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] witten@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phx@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago Parking (at a remote resort with no other reasonable way of accessing) comes to mind as one of the bullshit'ish fees I've had to pay, but most of the rest are usually fees passed up from the municipality etc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phx@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago Parking (at a remote resort with no other reasonable way of accessing) comes to mind as one of the bullshit'ish fees I've had to pay, but most of the rest are usually fees passed up from the municipality etc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oleorun@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago Big city mandatory valet comes to my mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the US it is common to have an amenities fee that you will only know, in most cases, the day of your check in. The fee applies whether you use the amenities or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) California just passed a law banning any mandatory fee if it isn't included in the advertised rates; the ban goes into force starting middle of next year. https://www.frommers.com/blogs/arthur-frommer-online/blog_posts/california-bans-deceptive-resort-fees-see-what-s-affected-and-when The new law, which takes effect on July 1, 2024, "make[s] unlawful advertising, displaying, or offering a price for a good or service that does not include all mandatory fees or charges other than taxes or fees imposed by a government on the transaction." If a fee is not optional and cannot be removed from a bill, the fee has to be disclosed from the top. That being said, I would imagine that there is some wiggle room on "mandatory". Like, a hotel is going to be allowed to charge for use of items in a minibar, for example -- that's not a mandatory fee. I don't know what the bar is for notification that a given action will incur a fee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's great for California. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago* Right turn on red didn't exist anywhere until some states started allowing it; a lot of people thought that it would be too dangerous. Then it worked out okay, and other states added it, and eventually essentially everyone was doing it. Just saying that it sounds like the direction things are going right now is to legislatively-restricting what hotels can charge without disclosure. From my skim online, it sounds like the addition of hotel fees like this is relatively recent, and so this is something of a backlash. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago California is so big that often, when they make a law, companies follow it nationally. It can be cheaper than having to maintain different rules for sifferent states permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) California just passed a law banning any mandatory fee if it isn't included in the advertised rates; the ban goes into force starting middle of next year. https://www.frommers.com/blogs/arthur-frommer-online/blog_posts/california-bans-deceptive-resort-fees-see-what-s-affected-and-when The new law, which takes effect on July 1, 2024, "make[s] unlawful advertising, displaying, or offering a price for a good or service that does not include all mandatory fees or charges other than taxes or fees imposed by a government on the transaction." If a fee is not optional and cannot be removed from a bill, the fee has to be disclosed from the top. That being said, I would imagine that there is some wiggle room on "mandatory". Like, a hotel is going to be allowed to charge for use of items in a minibar, for example -- that's not a mandatory fee. I don't know what the bar is for notification that a given action will incur a fee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's great for California. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago* Right turn on red didn't exist anywhere until some states started allowing it; a lot of people thought that it would be too dangerous. Then it worked out okay, and other states added it, and eventually essentially everyone was doing it. Just saying that it sounds like the direction things are going right now is to legislatively-restricting what hotels can charge without disclosure. From my skim online, it sounds like the addition of hotel fees like this is relatively recent, and so this is something of a backlash. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago California is so big that often, when they make a law, companies follow it nationally. It can be cheaper than having to maintain different rules for sifferent states permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's great for California. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago* Right turn on red didn't exist anywhere until some states started allowing it; a lot of people thought that it would be too dangerous. Then it worked out okay, and other states added it, and eventually essentially everyone was doing it. Just saying that it sounds like the direction things are going right now is to legislatively-restricting what hotels can charge without disclosure. From my skim online, it sounds like the addition of hotel fees like this is relatively recent, and so this is something of a backlash. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago California is so big that often, when they make a law, companies follow it nationally. It can be cheaper than having to maintain different rules for sifferent states permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago* Right turn on red didn't exist anywhere until some states started allowing it; a lot of people thought that it would be too dangerous. Then it worked out okay, and other states added it, and eventually essentially everyone was doing it. Just saying that it sounds like the direction things are going right now is to legislatively-restricting what hotels can charge without disclosure. From my skim online, it sounds like the addition of hotel fees like this is relatively recent, and so this is something of a backlash. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago California is so big that often, when they make a law, companies follow it nationally. It can be cheaper than having to maintain different rules for sifferent states permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ambiorickx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Around 2004-5 I regularly stayed at a large chain hotel near Tucson airport (something like Doubletree, but I’m not sure if it was that one). They charged a daily fee for the phone in your room. Not for using it, mind you, just for the phone being there. And no, they did not have rooms without phones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Last week I stayed in a hotel for 3 days at a said and done price that was still about $100 cheaper than this 2 night Airbnb's base price, not even adding in their fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fal@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago Ok? That tells us nothing without comparing location, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fal@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago Ok? That tells us nothing without comparing location, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
