▲ 514 ▼ Canada Will Legalize Medically Assisted Dying For People Addicted to Drugs (www.vice.com) submitted 2 years ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 231 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] pimento64@sopuli.xyz -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) found the guy with truly hilarious ideas about what informed consent means permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) One involves someone who hasn't fully developed their brain, being taken advantage of. The other involves grown people who are most likely not going to make the decision lightly, and have years of proof they'll keep suffering. I'd also imagine it's not some instant suicide booth like Futurama, there's not gonna be a "Death same night, guaranteed" run of clinics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jasory@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you don't believe that medical conditions affect your brain? Aging alone effects it, elderly people are arguably less mentally capable than teenagers. So if teenagers cannot consent to sex based on mental capability, then how are lower capability elderly supposed to be able to consent to death? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I literally never said that.... Those are 2 very very very different ideas you're trying to compare, and feels like poor logic. Teenagers can absolutely consent to sex, as sex and grooming are very different things. 2 teenagers having sex, normal. Someone much older than a teenager grooming them mentally for years to eventually have sex, not normal. Lastly, elderly people's mental faculties declining that hard isn't guaranteed. Plenty of old people stay mentally sharp and capable of making decisions. Teenagers, though, 100% will have an under-developed brain until ~25, not to mention how little of life experience they'll likely have. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) found the guy with truly hilarious ideas about what informed consent means permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) One involves someone who hasn't fully developed their brain, being taken advantage of. The other involves grown people who are most likely not going to make the decision lightly, and have years of proof they'll keep suffering. I'd also imagine it's not some instant suicide booth like Futurama, there's not gonna be a "Death same night, guaranteed" run of clinics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jasory@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you don't believe that medical conditions affect your brain? Aging alone effects it, elderly people are arguably less mentally capable than teenagers. So if teenagers cannot consent to sex based on mental capability, then how are lower capability elderly supposed to be able to consent to death? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I literally never said that.... Those are 2 very very very different ideas you're trying to compare, and feels like poor logic. Teenagers can absolutely consent to sex, as sex and grooming are very different things. 2 teenagers having sex, normal. Someone much older than a teenager grooming them mentally for years to eventually have sex, not normal. Lastly, elderly people's mental faculties declining that hard isn't guaranteed. Plenty of old people stay mentally sharp and capable of making decisions. Teenagers, though, 100% will have an under-developed brain until ~25, not to mention how little of life experience they'll likely have. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jasory@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you don't believe that medical conditions affect your brain? Aging alone effects it, elderly people are arguably less mentally capable than teenagers. So if teenagers cannot consent to sex based on mental capability, then how are lower capability elderly supposed to be able to consent to death? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I literally never said that.... Those are 2 very very very different ideas you're trying to compare, and feels like poor logic. Teenagers can absolutely consent to sex, as sex and grooming are very different things. 2 teenagers having sex, normal. Someone much older than a teenager grooming them mentally for years to eventually have sex, not normal. Lastly, elderly people's mental faculties declining that hard isn't guaranteed. Plenty of old people stay mentally sharp and capable of making decisions. Teenagers, though, 100% will have an under-developed brain until ~25, not to mention how little of life experience they'll likely have. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago I literally never said that.... Those are 2 very very very different ideas you're trying to compare, and feels like poor logic. Teenagers can absolutely consent to sex, as sex and grooming are very different things. 2 teenagers having sex, normal. Someone much older than a teenager grooming them mentally for years to eventually have sex, not normal. Lastly, elderly people's mental faculties declining that hard isn't guaranteed. Plenty of old people stay mentally sharp and capable of making decisions. Teenagers, though, 100% will have an under-developed brain until ~25, not to mention how little of life experience they'll likely have. permalink fedilink source parent