▲ 645 ▼ Sidney Powell pleads guilty in deal with prosecutors over efforts to overturn Trump loss in Georgia (apnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee to c/politics@lemmy.world 84 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago (3 children) Did she flip on Trump? That would be amazing. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 159 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well the article does say "A judge agreed that she will serve about six years of probation, have to pay $2,700 in restitution and have to testify truthfully against her co-defendants." So yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (2 children) $2700 for a lawyer lol, these numbers are so random permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah but she was Trump's lawyer so I assume she is broke and unemployable. /S sort of permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) 35% of the county would totally hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kescusay@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, not now, she's turned on the God-Emperor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) This. I think her law career is over. I can't imagine what job she'd do now. Or maybe I am wrong and there are still people who'd hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago I'd imagine this would probably put her on the chopping block for disbarment permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Newsmax, OANN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 7 points 2 years ago* 35% of the county would totally hire her. lol @ thinking the average MAGA chud can afford to hire a lawyer. Also, you forgot the R in country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mikezane@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago On NPR, they state that the $2700 covers the cost of replacing election equipment. https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207076719/sidney-powell-georgia-guilty-plea permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh they just expected the truth later from a trump toady for an immediate legal benefit. So wise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago* Part of her deal was a written statement describing what she will testify to. They don't give this kind of deal unless the subject has already provided sufficient useful information and sworn to its truthfulness. She's bound to her statement now and, if she retracts later, I'm sure they can both pull back the plea deal and charge her with perjury. These prosecutors aren't stupid nor is this their first plea deal. They've already got the goods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khepri@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* Oh they will absolutely bring the hammer down if she doesn't do and say everything by the book from this point forward, that's the point of a plea deal. It gets the defendant out of (most of the) trouble, but it locks them in to testifying fully and truthfully about the case from then on. If the prosecutor/judge thinks they aren't holding up that promise, the deal is taken away. You really do have to go full state's evidence if you take a deal like this, and they are not playing around with the threat of piling all those felony charges - and more - right back on you if you don't sing just the way the DOJ wants you to. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee [S] 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago They all should have flipped way earlier, it's not like he would support them or take care of them in any way. I mean, look at the lawyers he hires for himself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago She also agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials. Sounds like it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nougat@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Same kind of deal that Scott Hall took: As part of the deal, she will serve six years of probation, will be fined $6,000 and will have to write an apology letter to Georgia and its residents. She also agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) As much as I want to see the house of cards collapse, that toadies like her get off nearly Scott free is a real miscarriage of justice IMO. She should be serving actual time, and not in a white-collar-resort prison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ashok36@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that the actions the state can prove only amount to misdemeanors. That's why RICO is so powerful. Even if you only did misdemeanors, if you were part of the conspiracy then you get lumped in with all the felonies everyone else committed too. The whole point of RICO is to roll up the underlings with the bosses and try to peel off underlings in exchange for cooperation. By pleaing out, Powell is separating herself from the others and so those felony RICO charges don't apply anymore. All that said, this is all at the discretion of the DA and the judge. If Powell fucks up the terms of her deal she's in for six years of Georgia state prison. At 68 years old, that'd got to be a pretty good motivator for good behavior and cooperation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) I totally get it, and in the grand scheme it makes perfect sense. You let the little fish get off easy in order to secure a conviction on the big fish. With that being said, I share the feeling of what u/enkers said above. It's disappointing that a lawyer, who damn well should have known better, can engage in a plot to overthrow our democracy and then get off with a slap on the wrist. It doesn't exactly serve as a deterrent for future conspirators, knowing that there are no serious consequences for helping "the bigger fish" commit crimes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* She will be disbarred as well. And, depending on what she has said, she may be extremely exposed to civil lawsuits now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago She always seemed like one of the biggest instigators to me. She drove a lot of the worst rhetoric and made up a lot of pure bullshit. Like you said, as a lawyer she should have been even more aware than her co-defendants how illegal this shit was. I hope there’s good strategy behind the decision to allow her to plea. If her testimony can directly implicate Trump or others it might be worthwhile. She also might be dumb enough to violate the terms of her plea, in which case you get her confession AND you get to throw the book at her. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Will I get a copy of the apology letter in the mail? Lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This could have been a real punishment if they made her hand sign a letter to every Georgian over voting age. That's justice. Let her chatgpt the letter. Also make her sign every single one 5 days a week, 8 hours a day until she's done. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 159 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well the article does say "A judge agreed that she will serve about six years of probation, have to pay $2,700 in restitution and have to testify truthfully against her co-defendants." So yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (2 children) $2700 for a lawyer lol, these numbers are so random permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah but she was Trump's lawyer so I assume she is broke and unemployable. /S sort of permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) 35% of the county would totally hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kescusay@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, not now, she's turned on the God-Emperor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) This. I think her law career is over. I can't imagine what job she'd do now. Or maybe I am wrong and there are still people who'd hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago I'd imagine this would probably put her on the chopping block for disbarment permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Newsmax, OANN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 7 points 2 years ago* 35% of the county would totally hire her. lol @ thinking the average MAGA chud can afford to hire a lawyer. Also, you forgot the R in country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mikezane@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago On NPR, they state that the $2700 covers the cost of replacing election equipment. https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207076719/sidney-powell-georgia-guilty-plea permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh they just expected the truth later from a trump toady for an immediate legal benefit. So wise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago* Part of her deal was a written statement describing what she will testify to. They don't give this kind of deal unless the subject has already provided sufficient useful information and sworn to its truthfulness. She's bound to her statement now and, if she retracts later, I'm sure they can both pull back the plea deal and charge her with perjury. These prosecutors aren't stupid nor is this their first plea deal. They've already got the goods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khepri@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* Oh they will absolutely bring the hammer down if she doesn't do and say everything by the book from this point forward, that's the point of a plea deal. It gets the defendant out of (most of the) trouble, but it locks them in to testifying fully and truthfully about the case from then on. If the prosecutor/judge thinks they aren't holding up that promise, the deal is taken away. You really do have to go full state's evidence if you take a deal like this, and they are not playing around with the threat of piling all those felony charges - and more - right back on you if you don't sing just the way the DOJ wants you to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (2 children) $2700 for a lawyer lol, these numbers are so random permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah but she was Trump's lawyer so I assume she is broke and unemployable. /S sort of permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) 35% of the county would totally hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kescusay@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, not now, she's turned on the God-Emperor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) This. I think her law career is over. I can't imagine what job she'd do now. Or maybe I am wrong and there are still people who'd hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago I'd imagine this would probably put her on the chopping block for disbarment permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Newsmax, OANN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 7 points 2 years ago* 35% of the county would totally hire her. lol @ thinking the average MAGA chud can afford to hire a lawyer. Also, you forgot the R in country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mikezane@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago On NPR, they state that the $2700 covers the cost of replacing election equipment. https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207076719/sidney-powell-georgia-guilty-plea permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah but she was Trump's lawyer so I assume she is broke and unemployable. /S sort of permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) 35% of the county would totally hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kescusay@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, not now, she's turned on the God-Emperor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) This. I think her law career is over. I can't imagine what job she'd do now. Or maybe I am wrong and there are still people who'd hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago I'd imagine this would probably put her on the chopping block for disbarment permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Newsmax, OANN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 7 points 2 years ago* 35% of the county would totally hire her. lol @ thinking the average MAGA chud can afford to hire a lawyer. Also, you forgot the R in country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) 35% of the county would totally hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kescusay@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, not now, she's turned on the God-Emperor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) This. I think her law career is over. I can't imagine what job she'd do now. Or maybe I am wrong and there are still people who'd hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago I'd imagine this would probably put her on the chopping block for disbarment permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Newsmax, OANN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 7 points 2 years ago* 35% of the county would totally hire her. lol @ thinking the average MAGA chud can afford to hire a lawyer. Also, you forgot the R in country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, not now, she's turned on the God-Emperor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) This. I think her law career is over. I can't imagine what job she'd do now. Or maybe I am wrong and there are still people who'd hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago I'd imagine this would probably put her on the chopping block for disbarment permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Newsmax, OANN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) This. I think her law career is over. I can't imagine what job she'd do now. Or maybe I am wrong and there are still people who'd hire her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago I'd imagine this would probably put her on the chopping block for disbarment permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Newsmax, OANN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago I'd imagine this would probably put her on the chopping block for disbarment permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Newsmax, OANN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Don't forget OnlyFans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Ew permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Can we pay her to keep her clothes on permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I bet she's a freak in bed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Cool man. You finally made a comment that made me conjure an image that was so gross that I had to cleanse my palate by reading something more wholesome. I chose your username. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I don't see them wanting her if she turned on Trump. MAGA people will spit after they say her name to get the taste out of their mouth now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 7 points 2 years ago* 35% of the county would totally hire her. lol @ thinking the average MAGA chud can afford to hire a lawyer. Also, you forgot the R in country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mikezane@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago On NPR, they state that the $2700 covers the cost of replacing election equipment. https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207076719/sidney-powell-georgia-guilty-plea permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh they just expected the truth later from a trump toady for an immediate legal benefit. So wise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago* Part of her deal was a written statement describing what she will testify to. They don't give this kind of deal unless the subject has already provided sufficient useful information and sworn to its truthfulness. She's bound to her statement now and, if she retracts later, I'm sure they can both pull back the plea deal and charge her with perjury. These prosecutors aren't stupid nor is this their first plea deal. They've already got the goods. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khepri@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* Oh they will absolutely bring the hammer down if she doesn't do and say everything by the book from this point forward, that's the point of a plea deal. It gets the defendant out of (most of the) trouble, but it locks them in to testifying fully and truthfully about the case from then on. If the prosecutor/judge thinks they aren't holding up that promise, the deal is taken away. You really do have to go full state's evidence if you take a deal like this, and they are not playing around with the threat of piling all those felony charges - and more - right back on you if you don't sing just the way the DOJ wants you to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago* Part of her deal was a written statement describing what she will testify to. They don't give this kind of deal unless the subject has already provided sufficient useful information and sworn to its truthfulness. She's bound to her statement now and, if she retracts later, I'm sure they can both pull back the plea deal and charge her with perjury. These prosecutors aren't stupid nor is this their first plea deal. They've already got the goods. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] khepri@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* Oh they will absolutely bring the hammer down if she doesn't do and say everything by the book from this point forward, that's the point of a plea deal. It gets the defendant out of (most of the) trouble, but it locks them in to testifying fully and truthfully about the case from then on. If the prosecutor/judge thinks they aren't holding up that promise, the deal is taken away. You really do have to go full state's evidence if you take a deal like this, and they are not playing around with the threat of piling all those felony charges - and more - right back on you if you don't sing just the way the DOJ wants you to. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee [S] 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago They all should have flipped way earlier, it's not like he would support them or take care of them in any way. I mean, look at the lawyers he hires for himself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago She also agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials. Sounds like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago They all should have flipped way earlier, it's not like he would support them or take care of them in any way. I mean, look at the lawyers he hires for himself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago She also agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials. Sounds like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nougat@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Same kind of deal that Scott Hall took: As part of the deal, she will serve six years of probation, will be fined $6,000 and will have to write an apology letter to Georgia and its residents. She also agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) As much as I want to see the house of cards collapse, that toadies like her get off nearly Scott free is a real miscarriage of justice IMO. She should be serving actual time, and not in a white-collar-resort prison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ashok36@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that the actions the state can prove only amount to misdemeanors. That's why RICO is so powerful. Even if you only did misdemeanors, if you were part of the conspiracy then you get lumped in with all the felonies everyone else committed too. The whole point of RICO is to roll up the underlings with the bosses and try to peel off underlings in exchange for cooperation. By pleaing out, Powell is separating herself from the others and so those felony RICO charges don't apply anymore. All that said, this is all at the discretion of the DA and the judge. If Powell fucks up the terms of her deal she's in for six years of Georgia state prison. At 68 years old, that'd got to be a pretty good motivator for good behavior and cooperation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) I totally get it, and in the grand scheme it makes perfect sense. You let the little fish get off easy in order to secure a conviction on the big fish. With that being said, I share the feeling of what u/enkers said above. It's disappointing that a lawyer, who damn well should have known better, can engage in a plot to overthrow our democracy and then get off with a slap on the wrist. It doesn't exactly serve as a deterrent for future conspirators, knowing that there are no serious consequences for helping "the bigger fish" commit crimes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* She will be disbarred as well. And, depending on what she has said, she may be extremely exposed to civil lawsuits now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago She always seemed like one of the biggest instigators to me. She drove a lot of the worst rhetoric and made up a lot of pure bullshit. Like you said, as a lawyer she should have been even more aware than her co-defendants how illegal this shit was. I hope there’s good strategy behind the decision to allow her to plea. If her testimony can directly implicate Trump or others it might be worthwhile. She also might be dumb enough to violate the terms of her plea, in which case you get her confession AND you get to throw the book at her. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Will I get a copy of the apology letter in the mail? Lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This could have been a real punishment if they made her hand sign a letter to every Georgian over voting age. That's justice. Let her chatgpt the letter. Also make her sign every single one 5 days a week, 8 hours a day until she's done. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) As much as I want to see the house of cards collapse, that toadies like her get off nearly Scott free is a real miscarriage of justice IMO. She should be serving actual time, and not in a white-collar-resort prison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ashok36@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that the actions the state can prove only amount to misdemeanors. That's why RICO is so powerful. Even if you only did misdemeanors, if you were part of the conspiracy then you get lumped in with all the felonies everyone else committed too. The whole point of RICO is to roll up the underlings with the bosses and try to peel off underlings in exchange for cooperation. By pleaing out, Powell is separating herself from the others and so those felony RICO charges don't apply anymore. All that said, this is all at the discretion of the DA and the judge. If Powell fucks up the terms of her deal she's in for six years of Georgia state prison. At 68 years old, that'd got to be a pretty good motivator for good behavior and cooperation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) I totally get it, and in the grand scheme it makes perfect sense. You let the little fish get off easy in order to secure a conviction on the big fish. With that being said, I share the feeling of what u/enkers said above. It's disappointing that a lawyer, who damn well should have known better, can engage in a plot to overthrow our democracy and then get off with a slap on the wrist. It doesn't exactly serve as a deterrent for future conspirators, knowing that there are no serious consequences for helping "the bigger fish" commit crimes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* She will be disbarred as well. And, depending on what she has said, she may be extremely exposed to civil lawsuits now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago She always seemed like one of the biggest instigators to me. She drove a lot of the worst rhetoric and made up a lot of pure bullshit. Like you said, as a lawyer she should have been even more aware than her co-defendants how illegal this shit was. I hope there’s good strategy behind the decision to allow her to plea. If her testimony can directly implicate Trump or others it might be worthwhile. She also might be dumb enough to violate the terms of her plea, in which case you get her confession AND you get to throw the book at her. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is that the actions the state can prove only amount to misdemeanors. That's why RICO is so powerful. Even if you only did misdemeanors, if you were part of the conspiracy then you get lumped in with all the felonies everyone else committed too. The whole point of RICO is to roll up the underlings with the bosses and try to peel off underlings in exchange for cooperation. By pleaing out, Powell is separating herself from the others and so those felony RICO charges don't apply anymore. All that said, this is all at the discretion of the DA and the judge. If Powell fucks up the terms of her deal she's in for six years of Georgia state prison. At 68 years old, that'd got to be a pretty good motivator for good behavior and cooperation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) I totally get it, and in the grand scheme it makes perfect sense. You let the little fish get off easy in order to secure a conviction on the big fish. With that being said, I share the feeling of what u/enkers said above. It's disappointing that a lawyer, who damn well should have known better, can engage in a plot to overthrow our democracy and then get off with a slap on the wrist. It doesn't exactly serve as a deterrent for future conspirators, knowing that there are no serious consequences for helping "the bigger fish" commit crimes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* She will be disbarred as well. And, depending on what she has said, she may be extremely exposed to civil lawsuits now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago She always seemed like one of the biggest instigators to me. She drove a lot of the worst rhetoric and made up a lot of pure bullshit. Like you said, as a lawyer she should have been even more aware than her co-defendants how illegal this shit was. I hope there’s good strategy behind the decision to allow her to plea. If her testimony can directly implicate Trump or others it might be worthwhile. She also might be dumb enough to violate the terms of her plea, in which case you get her confession AND you get to throw the book at her. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) I totally get it, and in the grand scheme it makes perfect sense. You let the little fish get off easy in order to secure a conviction on the big fish. With that being said, I share the feeling of what u/enkers said above. It's disappointing that a lawyer, who damn well should have known better, can engage in a plot to overthrow our democracy and then get off with a slap on the wrist. It doesn't exactly serve as a deterrent for future conspirators, knowing that there are no serious consequences for helping "the bigger fish" commit crimes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* She will be disbarred as well. And, depending on what she has said, she may be extremely exposed to civil lawsuits now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago She always seemed like one of the biggest instigators to me. She drove a lot of the worst rhetoric and made up a lot of pure bullshit. Like you said, as a lawyer she should have been even more aware than her co-defendants how illegal this shit was. I hope there’s good strategy behind the decision to allow her to plea. If her testimony can directly implicate Trump or others it might be worthwhile. She also might be dumb enough to violate the terms of her plea, in which case you get her confession AND you get to throw the book at her. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* She will be disbarred as well. And, depending on what she has said, she may be extremely exposed to civil lawsuits now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago She always seemed like one of the biggest instigators to me. She drove a lot of the worst rhetoric and made up a lot of pure bullshit. Like you said, as a lawyer she should have been even more aware than her co-defendants how illegal this shit was. I hope there’s good strategy behind the decision to allow her to plea. If her testimony can directly implicate Trump or others it might be worthwhile. She also might be dumb enough to violate the terms of her plea, in which case you get her confession AND you get to throw the book at her. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Will I get a copy of the apology letter in the mail? Lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This could have been a real punishment if they made her hand sign a letter to every Georgian over voting age. That's justice. Let her chatgpt the letter. Also make her sign every single one 5 days a week, 8 hours a day until she's done. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago This could have been a real punishment if they made her hand sign a letter to every Georgian over voting age. That's justice. Let her chatgpt the letter. Also make her sign every single one 5 days a week, 8 hours a day until she's done. permalink fedilink source parent