▲ 127 ▼ White House weighs $100 billion for Israel, Ukraine bill; plans in flux (www.washingtonpost.com) submitted 2 years ago by guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works to c/world@lemmy.world 37 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) Mexico spends $8 billion a year on defense. Canada spends $26 billion a year on defense. We've spent well over $100 billion on Ukraine already, and Israel gets $5 billion a year from the US in charity annually. When do the American people get an emergency spending package, you know, considering it's our money in the first place? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] robocall@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Best I can offer is a, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coaxil@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) After I have pulled myself up, do I at least get a firm handshake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago no. you are also not supposed to shake your own hand. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Unless you want to barter with your medical provider using cold war era weaponry, it's not a direct comparison. Most of the "dollars" in aid Ukraine receives is equipment. There have been cash payments mostly for (allegedly) humanitarian purposes, and I won't begrudge them that. Also the Israel aid is vouchers for them to buy US military equipment. Now whether we should support a genocidal nation at all is a question worth considering, but it's never stopped us before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krono@lemmy.today 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mate, the US is directly funding all of Ukraine's civil service. We pay for their police, firefighters, ambulances, etc. If an uninsured person in America needs an ambulance ride, they will get a $1300 bill (on average). If any person in Ukraine needs an ambulance ride, dont worry it's free of charge, Uncle Sam got you covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Israel also has universal health care, and they're still getting a cool five billion in charity from us every year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) How many bureaucrats does that $1300 have to pay before it reaches the ambulance driver? The US healthcare system is notorious for bloat. Taxpayers pay more for healthcare than countries with free healthcare. permalink fedilink source parent [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That'll cause inflation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago You forgot the /s. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wooki@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago At this point it stopped being your money a long time ago and became your debt and your children’s debt and your children’s children’s debt. Got to love unhinged unbalanced generational national debt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] robocall@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Best I can offer is a, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coaxil@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) After I have pulled myself up, do I at least get a firm handshake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago no. you are also not supposed to shake your own hand. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] coaxil@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) After I have pulled myself up, do I at least get a firm handshake? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago no. you are also not supposed to shake your own hand. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago no. you are also not supposed to shake your own hand. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Unless you want to barter with your medical provider using cold war era weaponry, it's not a direct comparison. Most of the "dollars" in aid Ukraine receives is equipment. There have been cash payments mostly for (allegedly) humanitarian purposes, and I won't begrudge them that. Also the Israel aid is vouchers for them to buy US military equipment. Now whether we should support a genocidal nation at all is a question worth considering, but it's never stopped us before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krono@lemmy.today 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mate, the US is directly funding all of Ukraine's civil service. We pay for their police, firefighters, ambulances, etc. If an uninsured person in America needs an ambulance ride, they will get a $1300 bill (on average). If any person in Ukraine needs an ambulance ride, dont worry it's free of charge, Uncle Sam got you covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Israel also has universal health care, and they're still getting a cool five billion in charity from us every year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) How many bureaucrats does that $1300 have to pay before it reaches the ambulance driver? The US healthcare system is notorious for bloat. Taxpayers pay more for healthcare than countries with free healthcare. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Krono@lemmy.today 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mate, the US is directly funding all of Ukraine's civil service. We pay for their police, firefighters, ambulances, etc. If an uninsured person in America needs an ambulance ride, they will get a $1300 bill (on average). If any person in Ukraine needs an ambulance ride, dont worry it's free of charge, Uncle Sam got you covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Israel also has universal health care, and they're still getting a cool five billion in charity from us every year. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) How many bureaucrats does that $1300 have to pay before it reaches the ambulance driver? The US healthcare system is notorious for bloat. Taxpayers pay more for healthcare than countries with free healthcare. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Israel also has universal health care, and they're still getting a cool five billion in charity from us every year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) How many bureaucrats does that $1300 have to pay before it reaches the ambulance driver? The US healthcare system is notorious for bloat. Taxpayers pay more for healthcare than countries with free healthcare. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That'll cause inflation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago You forgot the /s. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago At this point it stopped being your money a long time ago and became your debt and your children’s debt and your children’s children’s debt. Got to love unhinged unbalanced generational national debt. permalink fedilink source parent