▲ 481 ▼ Latency just still isn't there unfortunately (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by JDubbleu@lemmy.world to c/pcmasterrace@lemmy.world 204 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PM_me_your_vagina_thanks@kbin.social 101 points 3 years ago (2 children) Fuckin' what? Is this meme 10 years old or what? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 37 points 3 years ago (6 children) I have Sony xm 3 headphones and I can't game on them because everything is delayed like 100ms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] linos_melendi@pawb.social 28 points 3 years ago Bluetooth is a terrible standard for gaming. You'd want something with its own dedicated 2.4ghz dongle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] And009@reddthat.com 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Couldn't believe it at first and thought mine was a defective pair. The delay is atrocious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's because Bluetooth is primarily designed for low power usage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] And009@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago Yep, but as someone pointed out those were $300 at launch. I know they're not meant for gaming and reading about latency issues seems like a 1st world problem to me because my older Bluetooth headset had lower latency. Come to think of it, I don't even remember which pair they were but it would've been under $100 with some BT dac maybe permalink fedilink source parent [–] regbin_@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago That's not a gaming headphone. A proper gaming headphone have near zero latency, you can even play rhythm games with it. Usually it will come with it's own wireless dongle and doesn't use Bluetooth at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Next time buy headphones with AptX low latency support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kalmarin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I bought headphones with aptxLL, only to find out that newer Qualcomm chipsets have depricared it in favor of aptx adaptive. It's not backward compatible and at the time there wasn't a single adaptive set of headphones on the market. I would either have to buy a >4 year old phone or get a new pair of overpriced headphones to use it now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Deprecated doesn't mean it's not supported. But it might be disabled by your phone manufacturer because they decided to cheap out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sure would be cool if Windows supported anything but AAC and SBC though... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Windows has full support for AptX since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I've seen this isn't true. Search for "Windows AptX LL" and you'll see dozens of ways you might install drivers that add support. The most common advice seems to be to buy a dongle that supports it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) All my laptops and PCs support AptX out of the box without any 3rd party stuff. There can be exceptions, sure, but I haven't seen them myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Both are supported. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Huh, must be my hardware then. It is getting kinda old... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago When my PC didn't have built-in Bluetooth stack, I was using ASUS single. It's cheap and works just fine with my headphones without any noticeable latency. And there's definitely a huge difference when I try to use my Bose 700 which don't support shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I have xm4 and have absolutely 0 problems with it. I feel like unless you're an actual pro gamer or a sweaty elitist it makes no difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] giant_smeeg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I have XM4s too and dont notice it at all. permalink fedilink source parent [+] traveler01@lemdro.id -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mctit@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Gaming is the far from what they were designed for. When listening to music or whatever you couldn't care less about a delay. permalink fedilink source parent [–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 8 points 3 years ago I have G533 which are even discontinued from production, they have no real latency. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 37 points 3 years ago (6 children) I have Sony xm 3 headphones and I can't game on them because everything is delayed like 100ms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] linos_melendi@pawb.social 28 points 3 years ago Bluetooth is a terrible standard for gaming. You'd want something with its own dedicated 2.4ghz dongle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] And009@reddthat.com 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Couldn't believe it at first and thought mine was a defective pair. The delay is atrocious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's because Bluetooth is primarily designed for low power usage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] And009@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago Yep, but as someone pointed out those were $300 at launch. I know they're not meant for gaming and reading about latency issues seems like a 1st world problem to me because my older Bluetooth headset had lower latency. Come to think of it, I don't even remember which pair they were but it would've been under $100 with some BT dac maybe permalink fedilink source parent [–] regbin_@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago That's not a gaming headphone. A proper gaming headphone have near zero latency, you can even play rhythm games with it. Usually it will come with it's own wireless dongle and doesn't use Bluetooth at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Next time buy headphones with AptX low latency support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kalmarin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I bought headphones with aptxLL, only to find out that newer Qualcomm chipsets have depricared it in favor of aptx adaptive. It's not backward compatible and at the time there wasn't a single adaptive set of headphones on the market. I would either have to buy a >4 year old phone or get a new pair of overpriced headphones to use it now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Deprecated doesn't mean it's not supported. But it might be disabled by your phone manufacturer because they decided to cheap out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sure would be cool if Windows supported anything but AAC and SBC though... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Windows has full support for AptX since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I've seen this isn't true. Search for "Windows AptX LL" and you'll see dozens of ways you might install drivers that add support. The most common advice seems to be to buy a dongle that supports it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) All my laptops and PCs support AptX out of the box without any 3rd party stuff. There can be exceptions, sure, but I haven't seen them myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Both are supported. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Huh, must be my hardware then. It is getting kinda old... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago When my PC didn't have built-in Bluetooth stack, I was using ASUS single. It's cheap and works just fine with my headphones without any noticeable latency. And there's definitely a huge difference when I try to use my Bose 700 which don't support shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I have xm4 and have absolutely 0 problems with it. I feel like unless you're an actual pro gamer or a sweaty elitist it makes no difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] giant_smeeg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I have XM4s too and dont notice it at all. permalink fedilink source parent [+] traveler01@lemdro.id -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mctit@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Gaming is the far from what they were designed for. When listening to music or whatever you couldn't care less about a delay. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] linos_melendi@pawb.social 28 points 3 years ago Bluetooth is a terrible standard for gaming. You'd want something with its own dedicated 2.4ghz dongle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] And009@reddthat.com 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Couldn't believe it at first and thought mine was a defective pair. The delay is atrocious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's because Bluetooth is primarily designed for low power usage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] And009@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago Yep, but as someone pointed out those were $300 at launch. I know they're not meant for gaming and reading about latency issues seems like a 1st world problem to me because my older Bluetooth headset had lower latency. Come to think of it, I don't even remember which pair they were but it would've been under $100 with some BT dac maybe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's because Bluetooth is primarily designed for low power usage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] And009@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago Yep, but as someone pointed out those were $300 at launch. I know they're not meant for gaming and reading about latency issues seems like a 1st world problem to me because my older Bluetooth headset had lower latency. Come to think of it, I don't even remember which pair they were but it would've been under $100 with some BT dac maybe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] And009@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago Yep, but as someone pointed out those were $300 at launch. I know they're not meant for gaming and reading about latency issues seems like a 1st world problem to me because my older Bluetooth headset had lower latency. Come to think of it, I don't even remember which pair they were but it would've been under $100 with some BT dac maybe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] regbin_@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago That's not a gaming headphone. A proper gaming headphone have near zero latency, you can even play rhythm games with it. Usually it will come with it's own wireless dongle and doesn't use Bluetooth at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Next time buy headphones with AptX low latency support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kalmarin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I bought headphones with aptxLL, only to find out that newer Qualcomm chipsets have depricared it in favor of aptx adaptive. It's not backward compatible and at the time there wasn't a single adaptive set of headphones on the market. I would either have to buy a >4 year old phone or get a new pair of overpriced headphones to use it now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Deprecated doesn't mean it's not supported. But it might be disabled by your phone manufacturer because they decided to cheap out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sure would be cool if Windows supported anything but AAC and SBC though... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Windows has full support for AptX since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I've seen this isn't true. Search for "Windows AptX LL" and you'll see dozens of ways you might install drivers that add support. The most common advice seems to be to buy a dongle that supports it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) All my laptops and PCs support AptX out of the box without any 3rd party stuff. There can be exceptions, sure, but I haven't seen them myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Both are supported. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Huh, must be my hardware then. It is getting kinda old... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago When my PC didn't have built-in Bluetooth stack, I was using ASUS single. It's cheap and works just fine with my headphones without any noticeable latency. And there's definitely a huge difference when I try to use my Bose 700 which don't support shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kalmarin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I bought headphones with aptxLL, only to find out that newer Qualcomm chipsets have depricared it in favor of aptx adaptive. It's not backward compatible and at the time there wasn't a single adaptive set of headphones on the market. I would either have to buy a >4 year old phone or get a new pair of overpriced headphones to use it now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Deprecated doesn't mean it's not supported. But it might be disabled by your phone manufacturer because they decided to cheap out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Deprecated doesn't mean it's not supported. But it might be disabled by your phone manufacturer because they decided to cheap out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yttra@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sure would be cool if Windows supported anything but AAC and SBC though... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Windows has full support for AptX since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I've seen this isn't true. Search for "Windows AptX LL" and you'll see dozens of ways you might install drivers that add support. The most common advice seems to be to buy a dongle that supports it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) All my laptops and PCs support AptX out of the box without any 3rd party stuff. There can be exceptions, sure, but I haven't seen them myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Both are supported. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Huh, must be my hardware then. It is getting kinda old... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago When my PC didn't have built-in Bluetooth stack, I was using ASUS single. It's cheap and works just fine with my headphones without any noticeable latency. And there's definitely a huge difference when I try to use my Bose 700 which don't support shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Windows has full support for AptX since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I've seen this isn't true. Search for "Windows AptX LL" and you'll see dozens of ways you might install drivers that add support. The most common advice seems to be to buy a dongle that supports it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) All my laptops and PCs support AptX out of the box without any 3rd party stuff. There can be exceptions, sure, but I haven't seen them myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Both are supported. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Huh, must be my hardware then. It is getting kinda old... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago When my PC didn't have built-in Bluetooth stack, I was using ASUS single. It's cheap and works just fine with my headphones without any noticeable latency. And there's definitely a huge difference when I try to use my Bose 700 which don't support shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] __dev@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) From what I've seen this isn't true. Search for "Windows AptX LL" and you'll see dozens of ways you might install drivers that add support. The most common advice seems to be to buy a dongle that supports it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) All my laptops and PCs support AptX out of the box without any 3rd party stuff. There can be exceptions, sure, but I haven't seen them myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Both are supported. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) All my laptops and PCs support AptX out of the box without any 3rd party stuff. There can be exceptions, sure, but I haven't seen them myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __dev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Both are supported. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] __dev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) AptX and AptX LL are not the same thing. AptX has the same latency as LDAC and SBC: >200ms; whereas AptX LL is actually decent at ~30ms. AptX is supported by Windows out of the box, AptX LL is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Both are supported. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yttra@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Huh, must be my hardware then. It is getting kinda old... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago When my PC didn't have built-in Bluetooth stack, I was using ASUS single. It's cheap and works just fine with my headphones without any noticeable latency. And there's definitely a huge difference when I try to use my Bose 700 which don't support shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago When my PC didn't have built-in Bluetooth stack, I was using ASUS single. It's cheap and works just fine with my headphones without any noticeable latency. And there's definitely a huge difference when I try to use my Bose 700 which don't support shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I have xm4 and have absolutely 0 problems with it. I feel like unless you're an actual pro gamer or a sweaty elitist it makes no difference. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] giant_smeeg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I have XM4s too and dont notice it at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] giant_smeeg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I have XM4s too and dont notice it at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I have XM4s too and dont notice it at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] traveler01@lemdro.id -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mctit@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Gaming is the far from what they were designed for. When listening to music or whatever you couldn't care less about a delay. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mctit@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Gaming is the far from what they were designed for. When listening to music or whatever you couldn't care less about a delay. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 8 points 3 years ago I have G533 which are even discontinued from production, they have no real latency. permalink fedilink source parent