β² 518 βΌ KDE problems require KDE solutions (feddit.de) submitted 2 years ago by Wofls@feddit.de to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 65 comments fedilink hide all child comments I know it's called plasma, and I don't know if it's actually plasmas fault, don't judge me, it's for the meme
[β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (4 children) Found the Nvidia user permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Some people have KDE problems because they use Nvidia. I have KDE problems because I switched from Nvidia to amd but there's no way to uninstall Nvidia drivers in arch without a os reinstall and I'm too lazy for that (games still work, but many of my KDE bugs are probably caused by Nvidia drivers still being present). We are not the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [β] SuperIce@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago You literally just have to uninstall the Nvidia packages permalink fedilink source parent [β] Discover5164@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago* pacman -Rs nvidia nvidia-tools i kinda did the same today, but my machine was headless. can you give me more info on why is impossible to uninstall Nvidia drivers? permalink fedilink source parent [β] keefshape@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Just switched from 2080 super to 7900xt last week on Endeavour. Install amdgpu, vulkan and mesa, reboot and install, uninstall nvidia stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] chili1553@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you like this setup? I'm on the same thing, using nixos. It's great, but Nvidia is clearly a buggy mess when I compare to my steam deck (I know not apples to apples) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] keefshape@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* I am loving it. Most recent builds have been absolutely smooth. My only complaint, a minor one, is I'm lazy and would like to see Discover added and populated with flatpak and appimage support more easily. It was good with the 2080. It's great with the 7900. Everything I throw at it, maxed out 4k, streamed via Sunshine (max detail/quality all) to an nvidia Shield or Steamdeck running moonlight, is so closely synced that audio is pretty much matched. And since getting rid of nvidia, no more waking up in the mornings to find the thing had crashed and rebooted to maintenance mode during some sort of unattended update or process. permalink fedilink source parent [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* When I last had an Nvidia GPU (secondhand PC), I discovered that the drivers came with altered versions of a lot of the 3D rendering libs. Those drivers are a cancer. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 5 points 2 years ago Wat sudo pacman -Rnsc nvidia-utils lib32-nvidia-utils Unless you went to the NVIDIA website and ran the .bin, you're not supposed to do that on any distro unless you want problems. Although it still shouldn't use an inactive driver. permalink fedilink source parent [β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I didn't know that, but when I changed to AMD I didn't think twice before reinstall everything so I never reached this knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent [β] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 12 points 2 years ago Or AMD, apparently. The bug report for this issue was explicitly renamed to say "Non Intel GPUs" - even though it seemed to be more likely(?) to happen to Nvidia users. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Wofls@feddit.de [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) ;-; permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I feel your pain, I was there once my friend, just hold on plasma 6 is coming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) just hold on plasma 6 is coming. It's only a matter of time until Nvidia will fuck up compatibility again. Waiting for workarounds to Nvidia problems is not the solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I really wish Linux hardware companies would stop selling Nvidia, and that Linux users would stop buying Nvidia. They don't care about us. EDIT: Yes I know people with Nvidia switch to Linux with existing hardware. That's not what I'm getting at and I hope those people choose their next GPU wisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They donβt care about us. Nvidia only cares about CUDA and users don't even need to use the Nvidia hardware to output graphics for that. Pretty sure Nvidia barely tests non-headless use of their hardware on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're probably right, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users are still buying Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago No sympathy then. permalink fedilink source parent [β] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What's the matter? I've had laptop with Nvidia GPU, and the only thing was that for some reason the driver only worked with Linux 5.4. Other than that, it was fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You were using nvidia with KDE on wayland? Maybe it was Nouveau driver but Nvidia official driver freezes KDE on wayland all the time, X11 is ok tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* Nope. That laptop is dead, sadly, so I can't try anymore. X11 with cinnamon (I briefly tried Plasma too). Nouveau at least worked with all kernels I tried, but it wouldn't resume from sleep. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (6 children) Some people have KDE problems because they use Nvidia. I have KDE problems because I switched from Nvidia to amd but there's no way to uninstall Nvidia drivers in arch without a os reinstall and I'm too lazy for that (games still work, but many of my KDE bugs are probably caused by Nvidia drivers still being present). We are not the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [β] SuperIce@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago You literally just have to uninstall the Nvidia packages permalink fedilink source parent [β] Discover5164@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago* pacman -Rs nvidia nvidia-tools i kinda did the same today, but my machine was headless. can you give me more info on why is impossible to uninstall Nvidia drivers? permalink fedilink source parent [β] keefshape@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Just switched from 2080 super to 7900xt last week on Endeavour. Install amdgpu, vulkan and mesa, reboot and install, uninstall nvidia stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] chili1553@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you like this setup? I'm on the same thing, using nixos. It's great, but Nvidia is clearly a buggy mess when I compare to my steam deck (I know not apples to apples) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] keefshape@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* I am loving it. Most recent builds have been absolutely smooth. My only complaint, a minor one, is I'm lazy and would like to see Discover added and populated with flatpak and appimage support more easily. It was good with the 2080. It's great with the 7900. Everything I throw at it, maxed out 4k, streamed via Sunshine (max detail/quality all) to an nvidia Shield or Steamdeck running moonlight, is so closely synced that audio is pretty much matched. And since getting rid of nvidia, no more waking up in the mornings to find the thing had crashed and rebooted to maintenance mode during some sort of unattended update or process. permalink fedilink source parent [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* When I last had an Nvidia GPU (secondhand PC), I discovered that the drivers came with altered versions of a lot of the 3D rendering libs. Those drivers are a cancer. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 5 points 2 years ago Wat sudo pacman -Rnsc nvidia-utils lib32-nvidia-utils Unless you went to the NVIDIA website and ran the .bin, you're not supposed to do that on any distro unless you want problems. Although it still shouldn't use an inactive driver. permalink fedilink source parent [β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I didn't know that, but when I changed to AMD I didn't think twice before reinstall everything so I never reached this knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SuperIce@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago You literally just have to uninstall the Nvidia packages permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Discover5164@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago* pacman -Rs nvidia nvidia-tools i kinda did the same today, but my machine was headless. can you give me more info on why is impossible to uninstall Nvidia drivers? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] keefshape@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Just switched from 2080 super to 7900xt last week on Endeavour. Install amdgpu, vulkan and mesa, reboot and install, uninstall nvidia stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] chili1553@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you like this setup? I'm on the same thing, using nixos. It's great, but Nvidia is clearly a buggy mess when I compare to my steam deck (I know not apples to apples) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] keefshape@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* I am loving it. Most recent builds have been absolutely smooth. My only complaint, a minor one, is I'm lazy and would like to see Discover added and populated with flatpak and appimage support more easily. It was good with the 2080. It's great with the 7900. Everything I throw at it, maxed out 4k, streamed via Sunshine (max detail/quality all) to an nvidia Shield or Steamdeck running moonlight, is so closely synced that audio is pretty much matched. And since getting rid of nvidia, no more waking up in the mornings to find the thing had crashed and rebooted to maintenance mode during some sort of unattended update or process. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] chili1553@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you like this setup? I'm on the same thing, using nixos. It's great, but Nvidia is clearly a buggy mess when I compare to my steam deck (I know not apples to apples) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] keefshape@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* I am loving it. Most recent builds have been absolutely smooth. My only complaint, a minor one, is I'm lazy and would like to see Discover added and populated with flatpak and appimage support more easily. It was good with the 2080. It's great with the 7900. Everything I throw at it, maxed out 4k, streamed via Sunshine (max detail/quality all) to an nvidia Shield or Steamdeck running moonlight, is so closely synced that audio is pretty much matched. And since getting rid of nvidia, no more waking up in the mornings to find the thing had crashed and rebooted to maintenance mode during some sort of unattended update or process. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] keefshape@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* I am loving it. Most recent builds have been absolutely smooth. My only complaint, a minor one, is I'm lazy and would like to see Discover added and populated with flatpak and appimage support more easily. It was good with the 2080. It's great with the 7900. Everything I throw at it, maxed out 4k, streamed via Sunshine (max detail/quality all) to an nvidia Shield or Steamdeck running moonlight, is so closely synced that audio is pretty much matched. And since getting rid of nvidia, no more waking up in the mornings to find the thing had crashed and rebooted to maintenance mode during some sort of unattended update or process. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* When I last had an Nvidia GPU (secondhand PC), I discovered that the drivers came with altered versions of a lot of the 3D rendering libs. Those drivers are a cancer. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 5 points 2 years ago Wat sudo pacman -Rnsc nvidia-utils lib32-nvidia-utils Unless you went to the NVIDIA website and ran the .bin, you're not supposed to do that on any distro unless you want problems. Although it still shouldn't use an inactive driver. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I didn't know that, but when I changed to AMD I didn't think twice before reinstall everything so I never reached this knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 12 points 2 years ago Or AMD, apparently. The bug report for this issue was explicitly renamed to say "Non Intel GPUs" - even though it seemed to be more likely(?) to happen to Nvidia users. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Wofls@feddit.de [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) ;-; permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I feel your pain, I was there once my friend, just hold on plasma 6 is coming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) just hold on plasma 6 is coming. It's only a matter of time until Nvidia will fuck up compatibility again. Waiting for workarounds to Nvidia problems is not the solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I really wish Linux hardware companies would stop selling Nvidia, and that Linux users would stop buying Nvidia. They don't care about us. EDIT: Yes I know people with Nvidia switch to Linux with existing hardware. That's not what I'm getting at and I hope those people choose their next GPU wisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They donβt care about us. Nvidia only cares about CUDA and users don't even need to use the Nvidia hardware to output graphics for that. Pretty sure Nvidia barely tests non-headless use of their hardware on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're probably right, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users are still buying Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago No sympathy then. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I feel your pain, I was there once my friend, just hold on plasma 6 is coming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) just hold on plasma 6 is coming. It's only a matter of time until Nvidia will fuck up compatibility again. Waiting for workarounds to Nvidia problems is not the solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I really wish Linux hardware companies would stop selling Nvidia, and that Linux users would stop buying Nvidia. They don't care about us. EDIT: Yes I know people with Nvidia switch to Linux with existing hardware. That's not what I'm getting at and I hope those people choose their next GPU wisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They donβt care about us. Nvidia only cares about CUDA and users don't even need to use the Nvidia hardware to output graphics for that. Pretty sure Nvidia barely tests non-headless use of their hardware on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're probably right, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users are still buying Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago No sympathy then. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) just hold on plasma 6 is coming. It's only a matter of time until Nvidia will fuck up compatibility again. Waiting for workarounds to Nvidia problems is not the solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I really wish Linux hardware companies would stop selling Nvidia, and that Linux users would stop buying Nvidia. They don't care about us. EDIT: Yes I know people with Nvidia switch to Linux with existing hardware. That's not what I'm getting at and I hope those people choose their next GPU wisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They donβt care about us. Nvidia only cares about CUDA and users don't even need to use the Nvidia hardware to output graphics for that. Pretty sure Nvidia barely tests non-headless use of their hardware on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're probably right, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users are still buying Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago No sympathy then. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I really wish Linux hardware companies would stop selling Nvidia, and that Linux users would stop buying Nvidia. They don't care about us. EDIT: Yes I know people with Nvidia switch to Linux with existing hardware. That's not what I'm getting at and I hope those people choose their next GPU wisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They donβt care about us. Nvidia only cares about CUDA and users don't even need to use the Nvidia hardware to output graphics for that. Pretty sure Nvidia barely tests non-headless use of their hardware on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're probably right, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users are still buying Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago No sympathy then. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) They donβt care about us. Nvidia only cares about CUDA and users don't even need to use the Nvidia hardware to output graphics for that. Pretty sure Nvidia barely tests non-headless use of their hardware on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're probably right, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users are still buying Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago No sympathy then. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're probably right, but it definitely seems like the majority of Linux users are still buying Nvidia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago No sympathy then. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What's the matter? I've had laptop with Nvidia GPU, and the only thing was that for some reason the driver only worked with Linux 5.4. Other than that, it was fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You were using nvidia with KDE on wayland? Maybe it was Nouveau driver but Nvidia official driver freezes KDE on wayland all the time, X11 is ok tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* Nope. That laptop is dead, sadly, so I can't try anymore. X11 with cinnamon (I briefly tried Plasma too). Nouveau at least worked with all kernels I tried, but it wouldn't resume from sleep. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] angrymouse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You were using nvidia with KDE on wayland? Maybe it was Nouveau driver but Nvidia official driver freezes KDE on wayland all the time, X11 is ok tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* Nope. That laptop is dead, sadly, so I can't try anymore. X11 with cinnamon (I briefly tried Plasma too). Nouveau at least worked with all kernels I tried, but it wouldn't resume from sleep. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* Nope. That laptop is dead, sadly, so I can't try anymore. X11 with cinnamon (I briefly tried Plasma too). Nouveau at least worked with all kernels I tried, but it wouldn't resume from sleep. permalink fedilink source parent