▲ 676 ▼ I have never seen ”/s” on lemmy (feddit.de) submitted 3 years ago by bleistift2@feddit.de to c/memes@lemmy.world 336 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] kitedemon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 88 points 3 years ago (4 children) Also helpful for people with trouble reading tone in text cuz of things like autism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 15 points 3 years ago It wouldn't be the first time I get myself into a trouble because of that :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nittick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Source: me permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) As someone with autism, I’m here to say that it is actually the opposite of helpful. People need challenges in order to grow. They need opportunities to fail. Putting training wheels on sarcasm makes autistic people even further behind the social curve by depriving us of opportunities to fail. Much like a sterile childhood environment has been scientifically proven to be a causal factor in developing allergies as an adult, I predict that science will eventually establish a causal link between lack of ambiguous communication during developmental years, and reduced intelligence in life. Human society is so fucking hard to understand for an autistic person, and I really appreciate your looking out for me, but the struggle is worth it, and human culture is intricate and beautiful, and that’s why I chose this username. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 years ago Okay but lots of other autistic people I know really appreciate tone indicators so you cannot really speak for everyone. Not to mention, why does knowing that something was meant to be sarcastic hinder learning instead of essentially guessing? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kitedemon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You misunderstand, this is from my own perspective as an autistic person. Plus, the lack of tone of voice over text can make communication harder, for everyone. It’s literally just a tool for communication, clearing up what you mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago But that's the point of sarcasm. Jonathan Swift got lots of death threats by mail after writing "A Modest Proposal," and he expected it! If someone doesn't want to risk being misunderstood, they should not write the opposite of what they mean. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themajesticdodo@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) How ever did autistic people survive before the internet to help them cope? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starman2112@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean a lot of neurodivergent people literally didn't survive until a few decades ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Well that's a massively gross exaggeration. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That’s the only legitimate defense for having to tag your sarcasm I’ve ever read. Back in MY DAY, nobody tagged their sarcasm on BBS or IRC and we ALL UNDERSTOOD AAAAA (but srsly for folks who have trouble with tone you’re fully right.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) What are you talking about? Even usenet in the 80s recommended using emoticons to mark sarcasm/joking remarks. Avoid sarcasm and facetious remarks. Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding". If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously. Source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago That’s a valid point! I forgot now many emoticons I’d use back then. I’ve always hated pointing out my sarcasm using extra things, though… I prefer to do it using italics, which is reeeeal helpful on Reddit where it goes over nobody’s heads at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 15 points 3 years ago It wouldn't be the first time I get myself into a trouble because of that :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago (3 children) As someone with autism, I’m here to say that it is actually the opposite of helpful. People need challenges in order to grow. They need opportunities to fail. Putting training wheels on sarcasm makes autistic people even further behind the social curve by depriving us of opportunities to fail. Much like a sterile childhood environment has been scientifically proven to be a causal factor in developing allergies as an adult, I predict that science will eventually establish a causal link between lack of ambiguous communication during developmental years, and reduced intelligence in life. Human society is so fucking hard to understand for an autistic person, and I really appreciate your looking out for me, but the struggle is worth it, and human culture is intricate and beautiful, and that’s why I chose this username. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 years ago Okay but lots of other autistic people I know really appreciate tone indicators so you cannot really speak for everyone. Not to mention, why does knowing that something was meant to be sarcastic hinder learning instead of essentially guessing? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kitedemon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You misunderstand, this is from my own perspective as an autistic person. Plus, the lack of tone of voice over text can make communication harder, for everyone. It’s literally just a tool for communication, clearing up what you mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago But that's the point of sarcasm. Jonathan Swift got lots of death threats by mail after writing "A Modest Proposal," and he expected it! If someone doesn't want to risk being misunderstood, they should not write the opposite of what they mean. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themajesticdodo@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) How ever did autistic people survive before the internet to help them cope? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starman2112@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean a lot of neurodivergent people literally didn't survive until a few decades ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Well that's a massively gross exaggeration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 years ago Okay but lots of other autistic people I know really appreciate tone indicators so you cannot really speak for everyone. Not to mention, why does knowing that something was meant to be sarcastic hinder learning instead of essentially guessing? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kitedemon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You misunderstand, this is from my own perspective as an autistic person. Plus, the lack of tone of voice over text can make communication harder, for everyone. It’s literally just a tool for communication, clearing up what you mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago But that's the point of sarcasm. Jonathan Swift got lots of death threats by mail after writing "A Modest Proposal," and he expected it! If someone doesn't want to risk being misunderstood, they should not write the opposite of what they mean. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago But that's the point of sarcasm. Jonathan Swift got lots of death threats by mail after writing "A Modest Proposal," and he expected it! If someone doesn't want to risk being misunderstood, they should not write the opposite of what they mean. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themajesticdodo@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) How ever did autistic people survive before the internet to help them cope? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starman2112@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean a lot of neurodivergent people literally didn't survive until a few decades ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Well that's a massively gross exaggeration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starman2112@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean a lot of neurodivergent people literally didn't survive until a few decades ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Well that's a massively gross exaggeration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Well that's a massively gross exaggeration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That’s the only legitimate defense for having to tag your sarcasm I’ve ever read. Back in MY DAY, nobody tagged their sarcasm on BBS or IRC and we ALL UNDERSTOOD AAAAA (but srsly for folks who have trouble with tone you’re fully right.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) What are you talking about? Even usenet in the 80s recommended using emoticons to mark sarcasm/joking remarks. Avoid sarcasm and facetious remarks. Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding". If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously. Source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago That’s a valid point! I forgot now many emoticons I’d use back then. I’ve always hated pointing out my sarcasm using extra things, though… I prefer to do it using italics, which is reeeeal helpful on Reddit where it goes over nobody’s heads at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) What are you talking about? Even usenet in the 80s recommended using emoticons to mark sarcasm/joking remarks. Avoid sarcasm and facetious remarks. Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding". If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously. Source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago That’s a valid point! I forgot now many emoticons I’d use back then. I’ve always hated pointing out my sarcasm using extra things, though… I prefer to do it using italics, which is reeeeal helpful on Reddit where it goes over nobody’s heads at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago That’s a valid point! I forgot now many emoticons I’d use back then. I’ve always hated pointing out my sarcasm using extra things, though… I prefer to do it using italics, which is reeeeal helpful on Reddit where it goes over nobody’s heads at all. permalink fedilink source parent
