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Hamas tells Gaza City residents to stay put after Israel orders evacuation (www.theguardian.com)
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Hamas has called on Palestinians to stay in their homes after Israel issued sweeping evacuation orders for almost half of Gaza’s more than 2.3 million people ahead of an expected ground offensive.

The Hamas authority for refugee affairs today told residents in the north of the territory to “remain steadfast in your homes and to stand firm in the face of this disgusting psychological war waged by the occupation”.

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[–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

No, it has nothing to do with my having a preference for Jews over Arabs, or Ukrainians over Russians, for that matter. If Ukraine and Russia are still fighting and disrupting the region after 75 years, I would say the same thing. In fact, it is sad to say, but most experts think that Ukraine will probably have to trade away some territory for peace. My point is that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been going on for 75 years and won't be settled peacefully as long as Israelis and Palestinians occupy the same land, so some other solution is necessary.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I assume the same applies to the country Russia invades after Ukraine surrenders, like ukraine is after Crimea. And to the next region israel seeks to expand into for Zionism after palestinians are gone.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We are talking along different tracks. Creating the state of Israel in Palestine was obviously a huge mistake, and booting out the Palestinians is certainly unjust. We agree. But now what? People can wish for a more just solution, but 75 years of unresolved conflict and suffering in Israel suggests that less-than-ideal solutions should be considered.

    Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe THIS TIME Israel and Palestine will figure out how to make a lasting peace. But I doubt it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    On their own? Of course not. It's a lesson we've learned before, aggressor states have to be addressed internationally. But currently, the aggressor state is the one being supported internationally. I dont think the people of Israel are like Russia, I think even just pausing aid on the condition that they stop the occupation of Palestinian territory would get them on board. Theyve created a humanitarian nightmare that needs addressing, that can be addressed with international help.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think Israel is an aggressor state at all. Don't forget that Israel has withdrawn from Palestinian territory before, and the result is always more attacks. That's also why Israel still occupies the Golan Heights. Israel has always said that it will trade occupied territory for security guarantees, which no one can give as long as Hamas and Hezbollah are in charge and singularly bent on the destruction of Israel.

    But, here we are, going down the same old tired narrative. All of this has been said and tried for decades. It's a frustrating quagmire for a reason. It's time for realpolitik, not another ideological crusade to gain justice for the Palestinian people. The Palestinians need to move on and be supported by the international community to do so. I know that isn't satisfying or fair, but I don't think that a good solution exists.

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