▲ 1510 ▼ The creator of Pixelfed announced an upcoming encrypted messenger for the fediverse that will work across the fediverse (mastodon.social) submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by nix@merv.news to c/technology@lemmy.world 153 comments fedilink hide all child comments It will be open source, end to end encrypted using Signal’s double ratchet encryption protocol, and he plans to make it easy for fediverse platforms to integrate it. The beta will release later this month. He’s also the creator of https://fedidb.org btw
[+] infyrin@lemmy.world -10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] okiokbar@lemm.ee 21 points 3 years ago (2 children) Discord is a centralised, proprietary service, sup would be a fediverse app. Discord is better than Sup just like Reddit is better than Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] optissima@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd be so excited to see any fediverse do the discord server/channel setup, and as soon as I see it I can start convincing friends to join it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBM@lemmings.world 4 points 3 years ago Matrix has this. It's federated but doesn't communicate with Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent [+] infyrin@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] okiokbar@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago I’m not disagreeing with you. You’re saying that the fediverse produces badly designed and branded services that mirror existing apps with massive user bases, that won’t be great until a lot of users migrate over. None of that is wrong! It’s why Lemmy is a mess that constantly breaks, and Reddit is still way more useful, even if most people here hate it. It’s just that most Lemmy users care enough about decentralisation to ignore those product downsides, in the hope that they it can be overcome over time. With a messaging product, that’s even easier. You can just install it and wait until other users join - network effects are ’much more limited than with eg Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago You’re trying to derive meaning from a system that doesn’t have one established objectively You got like 10 people that basically said “i disagree” in voting format, nbd. Sometimes we have unpopular opinions, other times bots, other times who cares internet points permalink fedilink source parent
[–] okiokbar@lemm.ee 21 points 3 years ago (2 children) Discord is a centralised, proprietary service, sup would be a fediverse app. Discord is better than Sup just like Reddit is better than Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] optissima@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd be so excited to see any fediverse do the discord server/channel setup, and as soon as I see it I can start convincing friends to join it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBM@lemmings.world 4 points 3 years ago Matrix has this. It's federated but doesn't communicate with Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent [+] infyrin@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] okiokbar@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago I’m not disagreeing with you. You’re saying that the fediverse produces badly designed and branded services that mirror existing apps with massive user bases, that won’t be great until a lot of users migrate over. None of that is wrong! It’s why Lemmy is a mess that constantly breaks, and Reddit is still way more useful, even if most people here hate it. It’s just that most Lemmy users care enough about decentralisation to ignore those product downsides, in the hope that they it can be overcome over time. With a messaging product, that’s even easier. You can just install it and wait until other users join - network effects are ’much more limited than with eg Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago You’re trying to derive meaning from a system that doesn’t have one established objectively You got like 10 people that basically said “i disagree” in voting format, nbd. Sometimes we have unpopular opinions, other times bots, other times who cares internet points permalink fedilink source parent
[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'd be so excited to see any fediverse do the discord server/channel setup, and as soon as I see it I can start convincing friends to join it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBM@lemmings.world 4 points 3 years ago Matrix has this. It's federated but doesn't communicate with Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MBM@lemmings.world 4 points 3 years ago Matrix has this. It's federated but doesn't communicate with Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] infyrin@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] okiokbar@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago I’m not disagreeing with you. You’re saying that the fediverse produces badly designed and branded services that mirror existing apps with massive user bases, that won’t be great until a lot of users migrate over. None of that is wrong! It’s why Lemmy is a mess that constantly breaks, and Reddit is still way more useful, even if most people here hate it. It’s just that most Lemmy users care enough about decentralisation to ignore those product downsides, in the hope that they it can be overcome over time. With a messaging product, that’s even easier. You can just install it and wait until other users join - network effects are ’much more limited than with eg Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago You’re trying to derive meaning from a system that doesn’t have one established objectively You got like 10 people that basically said “i disagree” in voting format, nbd. Sometimes we have unpopular opinions, other times bots, other times who cares internet points permalink fedilink source parent
[–] okiokbar@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago I’m not disagreeing with you. You’re saying that the fediverse produces badly designed and branded services that mirror existing apps with massive user bases, that won’t be great until a lot of users migrate over. None of that is wrong! It’s why Lemmy is a mess that constantly breaks, and Reddit is still way more useful, even if most people here hate it. It’s just that most Lemmy users care enough about decentralisation to ignore those product downsides, in the hope that they it can be overcome over time. With a messaging product, that’s even easier. You can just install it and wait until other users join - network effects are ’much more limited than with eg Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago You’re trying to derive meaning from a system that doesn’t have one established objectively You got like 10 people that basically said “i disagree” in voting format, nbd. Sometimes we have unpopular opinions, other times bots, other times who cares internet points permalink fedilink source parent