▲ 67 ▼ What's the best response to someone who believes in hard determinism but also uses this to deny responsibility for any immoral actions they commit? (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* by PlogLod@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments That is, they think all of their decisions were preordained, and then use this to claim that they can't be held responsible for anything they do.
[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah. It just extends down. Your belief, and any changes over time, are also predetermined as some sum of your inputs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Sure, but the compatibilist view is, in my understanding, that determinism is true, but we still have free will. The mind is so complex its deterministic function can't be fully predicted, so the outcome of particular inputs over any meaningful duration cannot be computed. Thus actual free will and the illusion of free are essentially functionally identical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago This is all just pointless speculation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Sure, but the compatibilist view is, in my understanding, that determinism is true, but we still have free will. The mind is so complex its deterministic function can't be fully predicted, so the outcome of particular inputs over any meaningful duration cannot be computed. Thus actual free will and the illusion of free are essentially functionally identical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago This is all just pointless speculation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago This is all just pointless speculation. permalink fedilink source parent