▲ 85 ▼ Vintage Mac Community Begs Manufacturers for New Supply of Rare Dongle as Resellers Charge $250 (www.404media.co) submitted 2 years ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@beehaw.org 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You’re missing the point that if Apple had just given it to VESA, it would have become the de-facto standard instead of DVI because other companies would rather reuse ADC than design DVI from scratch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] beefcat@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) i think i laid out exactly why that most likely wouldn’t have happened i don’t think there is any reason vesa couldn’t have adopted it if they wanted. the problem is they didn’t want a connector that also handles power and usb, because that would have raised costs for pc manufacturers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) As a consumer, would have been pretty cool if DVI carried USB too. Instead, almost every monitor bundles a USB hub that needs an extra cable. Not sure how that saved manufacturers money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beefcat@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) you have to remember this was 1998, and apple was the first company going all-in on usb for peripherals, using it to replace the aging apple desktop bus. the cost concern also has more to do with low end machines in that time frame. if the connector included it, then any devices that used it would need usb support. at a time when usb was still brand new, and most pcs that had it shipped with controllers that only supported one or two ports. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anlumo@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago ADC is incredibly inconvientient, because it doesn't support hotplugging. It also requires the computer to contain a power supply for the screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) i think i laid out exactly why that most likely wouldn’t have happened i don’t think there is any reason vesa couldn’t have adopted it if they wanted. the problem is they didn’t want a connector that also handles power and usb, because that would have raised costs for pc manufacturers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) As a consumer, would have been pretty cool if DVI carried USB too. Instead, almost every monitor bundles a USB hub that needs an extra cable. Not sure how that saved manufacturers money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beefcat@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) you have to remember this was 1998, and apple was the first company going all-in on usb for peripherals, using it to replace the aging apple desktop bus. the cost concern also has more to do with low end machines in that time frame. if the connector included it, then any devices that used it would need usb support. at a time when usb was still brand new, and most pcs that had it shipped with controllers that only supported one or two ports. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) As a consumer, would have been pretty cool if DVI carried USB too. Instead, almost every monitor bundles a USB hub that needs an extra cable. Not sure how that saved manufacturers money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beefcat@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) you have to remember this was 1998, and apple was the first company going all-in on usb for peripherals, using it to replace the aging apple desktop bus. the cost concern also has more to do with low end machines in that time frame. if the connector included it, then any devices that used it would need usb support. at a time when usb was still brand new, and most pcs that had it shipped with controllers that only supported one or two ports. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) you have to remember this was 1998, and apple was the first company going all-in on usb for peripherals, using it to replace the aging apple desktop bus. the cost concern also has more to do with low end machines in that time frame. if the connector included it, then any devices that used it would need usb support. at a time when usb was still brand new, and most pcs that had it shipped with controllers that only supported one or two ports. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anlumo@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago ADC is incredibly inconvientient, because it doesn't support hotplugging. It also requires the computer to contain a power supply for the screen. permalink fedilink source parent