▲ 507 ▼ You Used To Be Cool. Pfft, Sell Out (lemmy.world) submitted 14 hours ago by OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 10 hours ago (3 children) I mean, I get it, servers cost money, traffic costs money. But there's a little gray zone between going broke and sucking out every cent possible. Isn't making enough money enough? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Shareholders need ever increasing value or they will sell their shares. In the US at least, it is illegal to not provide shareholders with value. The only way to reliably get value is to fuck over your customers at every turn and fire half of your employees every few years permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) That's the reason we should get rid of publicly traded companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Then you would still have private equity firms fucking everyone over, but with even less regulatory oversight. I think publicly traded companies should be nationalized under an independent and thoroughly-audited oversight body accountable to the taxpayers, and any profits generated should be distributed to fund public works, social services, welfare benefits, and civil sector orgs. And the idea of infinite growth needs to be abandoned entirely. These major internet companies need to be viewed as a public utility, and their goal should be to provide stable, reliable, quality services rather than churn an endless profit. This can only be done after nationalizing them though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago (1 child) One step after another, and don't look down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago The US can’t even ban elected officials from trading stocks. It has a president who openly brags about his own grift and nobody does a thing. I don’t think it’s going to happen soon… permalink fedilink source parent [–] tabris@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child) In the word of Jim Stephanie Stirling, "They don't just want a lot of money. They want all the money." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 point 9 hours ago See, this is why I would suggest to switch to the post-scarsity model of Star Trek. Then they can have all the money, but it's completely worthless. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago When you're a Trillion Dollar company, you don't need MORE money. You make enough to make everything run without additional income. But obviously a trillion dollars is still not enough. We need more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Shareholders need ever increasing value or they will sell their shares. In the US at least, it is illegal to not provide shareholders with value. The only way to reliably get value is to fuck over your customers at every turn and fire half of your employees every few years permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) That's the reason we should get rid of publicly traded companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Then you would still have private equity firms fucking everyone over, but with even less regulatory oversight. I think publicly traded companies should be nationalized under an independent and thoroughly-audited oversight body accountable to the taxpayers, and any profits generated should be distributed to fund public works, social services, welfare benefits, and civil sector orgs. And the idea of infinite growth needs to be abandoned entirely. These major internet companies need to be viewed as a public utility, and their goal should be to provide stable, reliable, quality services rather than churn an endless profit. This can only be done after nationalizing them though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago (1 child) One step after another, and don't look down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago The US can’t even ban elected officials from trading stocks. It has a president who openly brags about his own grift and nobody does a thing. I don’t think it’s going to happen soon… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 9 hours ago (1 child) That's the reason we should get rid of publicly traded companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Then you would still have private equity firms fucking everyone over, but with even less regulatory oversight. I think publicly traded companies should be nationalized under an independent and thoroughly-audited oversight body accountable to the taxpayers, and any profits generated should be distributed to fund public works, social services, welfare benefits, and civil sector orgs. And the idea of infinite growth needs to be abandoned entirely. These major internet companies need to be viewed as a public utility, and their goal should be to provide stable, reliable, quality services rather than churn an endless profit. This can only be done after nationalizing them though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago (1 child) One step after another, and don't look down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago The US can’t even ban elected officials from trading stocks. It has a president who openly brags about his own grift and nobody does a thing. I don’t think it’s going to happen soon… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Then you would still have private equity firms fucking everyone over, but with even less regulatory oversight. I think publicly traded companies should be nationalized under an independent and thoroughly-audited oversight body accountable to the taxpayers, and any profits generated should be distributed to fund public works, social services, welfare benefits, and civil sector orgs. And the idea of infinite growth needs to be abandoned entirely. These major internet companies need to be viewed as a public utility, and their goal should be to provide stable, reliable, quality services rather than churn an endless profit. This can only be done after nationalizing them though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago (1 child) One step after another, and don't look down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago The US can’t even ban elected officials from trading stocks. It has a president who openly brags about his own grift and nobody does a thing. I don’t think it’s going to happen soon… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago (1 child) One step after another, and don't look down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago The US can’t even ban elected officials from trading stocks. It has a president who openly brags about his own grift and nobody does a thing. I don’t think it’s going to happen soon… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago The US can’t even ban elected officials from trading stocks. It has a president who openly brags about his own grift and nobody does a thing. I don’t think it’s going to happen soon… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tabris@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child) In the word of Jim Stephanie Stirling, "They don't just want a lot of money. They want all the money." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 point 9 hours ago See, this is why I would suggest to switch to the post-scarsity model of Star Trek. Then they can have all the money, but it's completely worthless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 point 9 hours ago See, this is why I would suggest to switch to the post-scarsity model of Star Trek. Then they can have all the money, but it's completely worthless. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago When you're a Trillion Dollar company, you don't need MORE money. You make enough to make everything run without additional income. But obviously a trillion dollars is still not enough. We need more. permalink fedilink source parent