▲ 61 ▼ Germany’s military power is on the rise. This time it must be firmly embedded in Europe. (ecfr.eu) submitted 23 hours ago by Pip@feddit.org to c/europe@feddit.org 30 comments fedilink hide all child comments As Russian aggression continues and Trump’s US threatens NATO, it is even more vital for a unified defence of the continent. Timothy Garton Ash Professor of European Studies, University of Oxford
[–] Pip@feddit.org [S] 4 points 21 hours ago (3 children) Are you ignorant or a Russian bot? Look at the countries bordering Russia and count the number of invasions over the last 15 years. Talk to Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians. Educate yourself!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] kossa@feddit.org 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children) I'm gonna ask again when the strong German military is firmly in the hands of an AfD government, which will be directly controlled by Putin. That's gonna be so fun 🎉 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 1 point 16 hours ago Realistically, if AfD is in control and starts doing shenanigans militarily, Germans are gonna politely drag them out of office. I mean, this is a country where only a minority would take up arms to defend their own house, they are not going to attack anyone if they need to be dragged kicking and screaming to defend. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plyth@feddit.org -2 points 18 hours ago* firmly in the hands of an AfD governmentnt, which will be directly controlled by Putin. Weidel is supposedly more on the US side. If she manages to pull a Merkel and silence Putin's men then other bad things can happen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 18 hours ago In the last 15 years?? 2. Ukraine and the Caucasus. Zero baltic state invasions. But I'm not here to defend Putin whatsoever. Look at the countries in the middle east and count the number of invasions that the German military has been part of or supported with weapons and military technology in the last 15 years. I can promise it's more than 2. And don't forget one of those involves a genocide. permalink fedilink source parent [–] doben@lemmy.wtf 1 point 19 hours ago* Can you tell us the number of invasions over the last 15 years, please? I checked, but I call bullshit from your side. Did you talk to Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians or are you pulling that shit out of your ass to discredit your discussion partner, in the same way you do, when you ask, if they are a Russian bot? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kossa@feddit.org 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children) I'm gonna ask again when the strong German military is firmly in the hands of an AfD government, which will be directly controlled by Putin. That's gonna be so fun 🎉 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 1 point 16 hours ago Realistically, if AfD is in control and starts doing shenanigans militarily, Germans are gonna politely drag them out of office. I mean, this is a country where only a minority would take up arms to defend their own house, they are not going to attack anyone if they need to be dragged kicking and screaming to defend. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plyth@feddit.org -2 points 18 hours ago* firmly in the hands of an AfD governmentnt, which will be directly controlled by Putin. Weidel is supposedly more on the US side. If she manages to pull a Merkel and silence Putin's men then other bad things can happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 1 point 16 hours ago Realistically, if AfD is in control and starts doing shenanigans militarily, Germans are gonna politely drag them out of office. I mean, this is a country where only a minority would take up arms to defend their own house, they are not going to attack anyone if they need to be dragged kicking and screaming to defend. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plyth@feddit.org -2 points 18 hours ago* firmly in the hands of an AfD governmentnt, which will be directly controlled by Putin. Weidel is supposedly more on the US side. If she manages to pull a Merkel and silence Putin's men then other bad things can happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 18 hours ago In the last 15 years?? 2. Ukraine and the Caucasus. Zero baltic state invasions. But I'm not here to defend Putin whatsoever. Look at the countries in the middle east and count the number of invasions that the German military has been part of or supported with weapons and military technology in the last 15 years. I can promise it's more than 2. And don't forget one of those involves a genocide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doben@lemmy.wtf 1 point 19 hours ago* Can you tell us the number of invasions over the last 15 years, please? I checked, but I call bullshit from your side. Did you talk to Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians or are you pulling that shit out of your ass to discredit your discussion partner, in the same way you do, when you ask, if they are a Russian bot? permalink fedilink source parent