▲ 1195 ▼ Yay. Underpaid freelance workers are now part of the surveillance state (discuss.online) submitted 3 days ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world 159 comments fedilink hide all child comments News article https://cybernews.com/news/flock-uber-lyft-vehicles-surveillance/
[–] hayvan@piefed.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 child) This is absolutely a capitalism problem. It's what happens when you let corporations do whatever without consequences as long as they can afford the bribes and in turn get contacts on taxpayer money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 23 points 3 days ago (2 children) True, but I could also see an authoritarian "communist" government doing all the same surveillance bullshit. So, while it's a capitalism problem this time, I don't think it's a capitalism-exclusive problem. It really is, at its root, an authoritarianism problem. This time, you've got capitalist authoritarianism, but next time maybe a different flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (3 children) China already has this sort of system completely built out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 2 days ago Yeah, it's creepy. There's almost no secure place in the world at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'll tell you more, the UK is one of the leading countries in cameras per capita, either installed or accessible by the authorities (not sure about exact details). They built government surveillance without any communism in sight. (Leaving alone that China's state capitalism is the opposite of communism.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago In 2023, China had over 700 million cameras tracking the population. That's one camera for every two citizens. But yes the UK is also building a surveillance state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 3 days ago (1 child) But is the technology developed by the state or are they contracting it out to a private company? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 child) How does that matter? Both are fucking horrible. But also, China does both. In 2023 they had over 700 million cameras tracking people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago State: communist. Private: capitalist. End result: authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) You can't get rid of authoritarianism the same way you can't get rid of stupid. Some portion of the population will always be the bottom of the bell curve. What you can do, however, is redirect it into something positive. For example, Japanese social structures are pretty fuckin' authoritarian. Most people wouldn't even dream of littering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago You can’t get rid of authoritarianism the same way you can’t get rid of stupid. True, but you can get rid of hierarchical authority itself, leaving the authoritarians nothing to work with. Ask your local anarchist how. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 23 points 3 days ago (2 children) True, but I could also see an authoritarian "communist" government doing all the same surveillance bullshit. So, while it's a capitalism problem this time, I don't think it's a capitalism-exclusive problem. It really is, at its root, an authoritarianism problem. This time, you've got capitalist authoritarianism, but next time maybe a different flavor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (3 children) China already has this sort of system completely built out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 2 days ago Yeah, it's creepy. There's almost no secure place in the world at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'll tell you more, the UK is one of the leading countries in cameras per capita, either installed or accessible by the authorities (not sure about exact details). They built government surveillance without any communism in sight. (Leaving alone that China's state capitalism is the opposite of communism.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago In 2023, China had over 700 million cameras tracking the population. That's one camera for every two citizens. But yes the UK is also building a surveillance state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 3 days ago (1 child) But is the technology developed by the state or are they contracting it out to a private company? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 child) How does that matter? Both are fucking horrible. But also, China does both. In 2023 they had over 700 million cameras tracking people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago State: communist. Private: capitalist. End result: authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) You can't get rid of authoritarianism the same way you can't get rid of stupid. Some portion of the population will always be the bottom of the bell curve. What you can do, however, is redirect it into something positive. For example, Japanese social structures are pretty fuckin' authoritarian. Most people wouldn't even dream of littering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago You can’t get rid of authoritarianism the same way you can’t get rid of stupid. True, but you can get rid of hierarchical authority itself, leaving the authoritarians nothing to work with. Ask your local anarchist how. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (3 children) China already has this sort of system completely built out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 2 days ago Yeah, it's creepy. There's almost no secure place in the world at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'll tell you more, the UK is one of the leading countries in cameras per capita, either installed or accessible by the authorities (not sure about exact details). They built government surveillance without any communism in sight. (Leaving alone that China's state capitalism is the opposite of communism.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago In 2023, China had over 700 million cameras tracking the population. That's one camera for every two citizens. But yes the UK is also building a surveillance state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 3 days ago (1 child) But is the technology developed by the state or are they contracting it out to a private company? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 child) How does that matter? Both are fucking horrible. But also, China does both. In 2023 they had over 700 million cameras tracking people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago State: communist. Private: capitalist. End result: authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 2 days ago Yeah, it's creepy. There's almost no secure place in the world at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) I'll tell you more, the UK is one of the leading countries in cameras per capita, either installed or accessible by the authorities (not sure about exact details). They built government surveillance without any communism in sight. (Leaving alone that China's state capitalism is the opposite of communism.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago In 2023, China had over 700 million cameras tracking the population. That's one camera for every two citizens. But yes the UK is also building a surveillance state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago In 2023, China had over 700 million cameras tracking the population. That's one camera for every two citizens. But yes the UK is also building a surveillance state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 3 days ago (1 child) But is the technology developed by the state or are they contracting it out to a private company? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 child) How does that matter? Both are fucking horrible. But also, China does both. In 2023 they had over 700 million cameras tracking people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago State: communist. Private: capitalist. End result: authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 child) How does that matter? Both are fucking horrible. But also, China does both. In 2023 they had over 700 million cameras tracking people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago State: communist. Private: capitalist. End result: authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago State: communist. Private: capitalist. End result: authoritarianism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) You can't get rid of authoritarianism the same way you can't get rid of stupid. Some portion of the population will always be the bottom of the bell curve. What you can do, however, is redirect it into something positive. For example, Japanese social structures are pretty fuckin' authoritarian. Most people wouldn't even dream of littering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago You can’t get rid of authoritarianism the same way you can’t get rid of stupid. True, but you can get rid of hierarchical authority itself, leaving the authoritarians nothing to work with. Ask your local anarchist how. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago You can’t get rid of authoritarianism the same way you can’t get rid of stupid. True, but you can get rid of hierarchical authority itself, leaving the authoritarians nothing to work with. Ask your local anarchist how. permalink fedilink source parent
