Absolutely right! And to be fair, sometimes you can get that tangible satisfaction in tech hobbies. You know, I've hacked some consoles, installed custom router firmware, built a crypto miner. Stuff like that can absolutely be personally satisfying.

But I think you hit the nail on the head, however you get it, I think we really do need some kind of tangible product of our efforts sometimes. You need to be able to say "yeah, I did that".