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5 years later, Windows 10 refuses to die, and Microsoft just can't push holdouts to Windows 11 (www.windowslatest.com)
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[–] 25 points 2 days ago (1 child)

because win11 is a miserable experience. the other week I decided to install it on one of my thinkpads cause I just wanted to "see how it is now" after being on linux for the past couple years. the whole process sucked. it was slow to install, they blitz you with emails as soon as you set up an account and login, and the updates either broke or took forever and ONE of the updates insisted on updating the bios on the thinkpad and totally borked it to the point I immediately uninstalled windows and had to reflash the bios cause Windows decided that my media keys were no longer necessary.

why would the average user want to experience any of that?

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  • [+] -17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Lol, I'm not saying you don't know what you're doing, but it's not usually that difficult. I install windows all the time and it's on a multitude of devices. It's all, or at least mostly what you're familiar with. I don't have driver issues, or key problems, I don't setup their online accounts or agree to any of that stuff.

    I'm not saying its perfect nor defending Microsoft, but you saying how bad it is doesn't make it so, it makes you sound incompetent on the subject.

    And unless you opt for all default settings, the last time I helped someone with the setup and they setup an Outlook email, they received 2 emails within the first 5 minutes, a welcome and a get to know the new windows BS... So, you sound like you're exaggerating is all.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I routinely install Windows: It is undeniably dogshit. Their images don't even have drivers for their own goddamned devices (Surfaces). This is part of why enterprise environments use shit like SCCM.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Enterprise use SCCM because they need to manage systems, full stop.

    I say this as someone who's worked in that realm since the 90's doing app packaging, system deployments, and managing systems with SMS.

    This is an area specifically where Windows blows Linux away for having standardized system management. If you want something similar in Linux you have to piece it together.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago* (2 children)

    Everything the poster above experienced is common. For example, Windows Updates fuck with your BIOS without warning to 'streamline the update experience'. You don't get any special prompt, they just do it.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    There's literally a prompt for BIOS updates warning you to ensure you don't interrupt them, cut power, or make sure devices are plugged in so it's not interrupted...

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago*

    That is highly board dependent. The MS auto-delivered BIOS updates for my work computer just…go. I only realize they happen when I’m greeted by a lengthy BIOS update bar when I try to start my computer for the day.

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