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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) I'm speaking specifically to the former. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (2 children) You demonstrate by behaving accordingly. If you treat people equally, you shouldn't need to tell people that you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago Yep, white people have an incentive to claim we aren't racists, our egos and social statuses generally benefit from these claims. Because of that we can't be taken at our words on the topic. Only our actions can be trusted permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) One would hope that's the case. It's not always. I wouldn't word it like the post. Typically it's more so "one people, one love" or "we are all together" or something to that affect. Particularly if one is in a sensitive circumstance and where you stand on this subject is the question at hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) It also says a lot when someone's goal is for people to know you treat others equally. That may make them feel that you do it more because you want the social kuddos so to speak. If the behavior is for appearance more than for equal treatment of people, that's also an ick. Just be authentically a good person and people will treat you accordingly. No good person goes around saying they're a good person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) One would think. One must remember that racism at least on an interpersonal level isn't one direction. In group theory systemic racism is typically from the dominant group towards the non-dominant group. In interpersonal racism anyone can be racist towards anyone anytime. All it takes is making positive or negative assumptions about someone based on their race. The situations I've found myself in is where someone was assuming something about me without knowing me just based on my race. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Nothing you say will ever reassure anyone that you aren't a racist more than just not being a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 child) Of course actions speak louder than words but that is a bit outside the hypothetical given. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I won't play in a hypothetical given in bad faith when I have given the answer. You are trying to draw out an answer to the question "what words do I use to convince people I am not a racist?" And the answer is "There are none. You must behave in an unracist like manner to demonstrate that you are not racist." There are no additional details no matter how unfair you feel that may be. You cannot control what other people think or feel, you may only demonstrate yourself to them through actions and behaviors. Lots of people will not like you on first sight because of one preconceived notion or another. There is nothing you can do about that. You can only control yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (2 children) You demonstrate by behaving accordingly. If you treat people equally, you shouldn't need to tell people that you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago Yep, white people have an incentive to claim we aren't racists, our egos and social statuses generally benefit from these claims. Because of that we can't be taken at our words on the topic. Only our actions can be trusted permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) One would hope that's the case. It's not always. I wouldn't word it like the post. Typically it's more so "one people, one love" or "we are all together" or something to that affect. Particularly if one is in a sensitive circumstance and where you stand on this subject is the question at hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) It also says a lot when someone's goal is for people to know you treat others equally. That may make them feel that you do it more because you want the social kuddos so to speak. If the behavior is for appearance more than for equal treatment of people, that's also an ick. Just be authentically a good person and people will treat you accordingly. No good person goes around saying they're a good person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) One would think. One must remember that racism at least on an interpersonal level isn't one direction. In group theory systemic racism is typically from the dominant group towards the non-dominant group. In interpersonal racism anyone can be racist towards anyone anytime. All it takes is making positive or negative assumptions about someone based on their race. The situations I've found myself in is where someone was assuming something about me without knowing me just based on my race. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Nothing you say will ever reassure anyone that you aren't a racist more than just not being a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 child) Of course actions speak louder than words but that is a bit outside the hypothetical given. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I won't play in a hypothetical given in bad faith when I have given the answer. You are trying to draw out an answer to the question "what words do I use to convince people I am not a racist?" And the answer is "There are none. You must behave in an unracist like manner to demonstrate that you are not racist." There are no additional details no matter how unfair you feel that may be. You cannot control what other people think or feel, you may only demonstrate yourself to them through actions and behaviors. Lots of people will not like you on first sight because of one preconceived notion or another. There is nothing you can do about that. You can only control yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago Yep, white people have an incentive to claim we aren't racists, our egos and social statuses generally benefit from these claims. Because of that we can't be taken at our words on the topic. Only our actions can be trusted permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) One would hope that's the case. It's not always. I wouldn't word it like the post. Typically it's more so "one people, one love" or "we are all together" or something to that affect. Particularly if one is in a sensitive circumstance and where you stand on this subject is the question at hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) It also says a lot when someone's goal is for people to know you treat others equally. That may make them feel that you do it more because you want the social kuddos so to speak. If the behavior is for appearance more than for equal treatment of people, that's also an ick. Just be authentically a good person and people will treat you accordingly. No good person goes around saying they're a good person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) One would think. One must remember that racism at least on an interpersonal level isn't one direction. In group theory systemic racism is typically from the dominant group towards the non-dominant group. In interpersonal racism anyone can be racist towards anyone anytime. All it takes is making positive or negative assumptions about someone based on their race. The situations I've found myself in is where someone was assuming something about me without knowing me just based on my race. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Nothing you say will ever reassure anyone that you aren't a racist more than just not being a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 child) Of course actions speak louder than words but that is a bit outside the hypothetical given. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I won't play in a hypothetical given in bad faith when I have given the answer. You are trying to draw out an answer to the question "what words do I use to convince people I am not a racist?" And the answer is "There are none. You must behave in an unracist like manner to demonstrate that you are not racist." There are no additional details no matter how unfair you feel that may be. You cannot control what other people think or feel, you may only demonstrate yourself to them through actions and behaviors. Lots of people will not like you on first sight because of one preconceived notion or another. There is nothing you can do about that. You can only control yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) It also says a lot when someone's goal is for people to know you treat others equally. That may make them feel that you do it more because you want the social kuddos so to speak. If the behavior is for appearance more than for equal treatment of people, that's also an ick. Just be authentically a good person and people will treat you accordingly. No good person goes around saying they're a good person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) One would think. One must remember that racism at least on an interpersonal level isn't one direction. In group theory systemic racism is typically from the dominant group towards the non-dominant group. In interpersonal racism anyone can be racist towards anyone anytime. All it takes is making positive or negative assumptions about someone based on their race. The situations I've found myself in is where someone was assuming something about me without knowing me just based on my race. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Nothing you say will ever reassure anyone that you aren't a racist more than just not being a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 child) Of course actions speak louder than words but that is a bit outside the hypothetical given. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I won't play in a hypothetical given in bad faith when I have given the answer. You are trying to draw out an answer to the question "what words do I use to convince people I am not a racist?" And the answer is "There are none. You must behave in an unracist like manner to demonstrate that you are not racist." There are no additional details no matter how unfair you feel that may be. You cannot control what other people think or feel, you may only demonstrate yourself to them through actions and behaviors. Lots of people will not like you on first sight because of one preconceived notion or another. There is nothing you can do about that. You can only control yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) One would think. One must remember that racism at least on an interpersonal level isn't one direction. In group theory systemic racism is typically from the dominant group towards the non-dominant group. In interpersonal racism anyone can be racist towards anyone anytime. All it takes is making positive or negative assumptions about someone based on their race. The situations I've found myself in is where someone was assuming something about me without knowing me just based on my race. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Nothing you say will ever reassure anyone that you aren't a racist more than just not being a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 child) Of course actions speak louder than words but that is a bit outside the hypothetical given. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I won't play in a hypothetical given in bad faith when I have given the answer. You are trying to draw out an answer to the question "what words do I use to convince people I am not a racist?" And the answer is "There are none. You must behave in an unracist like manner to demonstrate that you are not racist." There are no additional details no matter how unfair you feel that may be. You cannot control what other people think or feel, you may only demonstrate yourself to them through actions and behaviors. Lots of people will not like you on first sight because of one preconceived notion or another. There is nothing you can do about that. You can only control yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Nothing you say will ever reassure anyone that you aren't a racist more than just not being a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 child) Of course actions speak louder than words but that is a bit outside the hypothetical given. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I won't play in a hypothetical given in bad faith when I have given the answer. You are trying to draw out an answer to the question "what words do I use to convince people I am not a racist?" And the answer is "There are none. You must behave in an unracist like manner to demonstrate that you are not racist." There are no additional details no matter how unfair you feel that may be. You cannot control what other people think or feel, you may only demonstrate yourself to them through actions and behaviors. Lots of people will not like you on first sight because of one preconceived notion or another. There is nothing you can do about that. You can only control yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 child) Of course actions speak louder than words but that is a bit outside the hypothetical given. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I won't play in a hypothetical given in bad faith when I have given the answer. You are trying to draw out an answer to the question "what words do I use to convince people I am not a racist?" And the answer is "There are none. You must behave in an unracist like manner to demonstrate that you are not racist." There are no additional details no matter how unfair you feel that may be. You cannot control what other people think or feel, you may only demonstrate yourself to them through actions and behaviors. Lots of people will not like you on first sight because of one preconceived notion or another. There is nothing you can do about that. You can only control yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I won't play in a hypothetical given in bad faith when I have given the answer. You are trying to draw out an answer to the question "what words do I use to convince people I am not a racist?" And the answer is "There are none. You must behave in an unracist like manner to demonstrate that you are not racist." There are no additional details no matter how unfair you feel that may be. You cannot control what other people think or feel, you may only demonstrate yourself to them through actions and behaviors. Lots of people will not like you on first sight because of one preconceived notion or another. There is nothing you can do about that. You can only control yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago Sometimes there's no time for actions as in when you're first meeting someone or even a group of people. For sure my views or mindset have been under scrutiny from the get go in my life. If you want to say my actual lived experience is an argument in bad faith you're free to but I politely disagree such circumstances are purely contrived. permalink fedilink source parent