▲ 15 ▼ Study suggest men refuse to ditch meat because it threatens their masculinity (www.totallyveganbuzz.com) submitted 2 years ago* by BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml to c/mensliberation@lemmy.ca 63 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Tsinc@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Sauces, marinades, vegtable broth and spices taste good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Look up the history and origin of making gravy and sauces ... modern gravies and sauces were started and developed in the Middle Ages for beef and meat dishes to mask the taste of rotten or semi rotten food. Yes I know there are other sauces and gravies for vegetables ... but the little dish of gravy for your roast beef supper was started because someone just wanted their food to taste less like a rotting carcass because they had no refrigeration back then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elouboub@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And now they make a nice blend that wouldn't taste the same without meat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago Agreed ... every time I make steak, or chicken, or turkey, or pork, I always carefully collect the drippings, make a roux and mix my own gravy. I've done the same with goose, moose and caribou. Takes lots of practice but now everyone raves about my gravy ... no homo tho. permalink fedilink source parent [–] No1RivenFucker@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago And I didn't plan on stopping eating those either permalink fedilink source parent [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah Shure but why limit yourself from stuff that tastes good? Just limit consumption to reasonable levels, its also a healt thing, but i don't see the need to never eat fish and meat anymore, once a week is ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Yea, one thing I feel is that vegans really are letting perfect be the enemy of good. While I do empathise and am eating less meat myself, I feel like screeching on people being omnis is missing the forest for the trees; if most people did like what you mentioned, eating meat once a week, that's 6/7th less animals slaughtered. Along with the reductions in emissions and whatever environmental impact too, of rearing so many animals for their meat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) When I, a man, am eating by myself I include meat sparingly, but when I eat food prepared by the women in my life, meat is front and centre and hard to avoid. I guess that is the threat to masculinity? The "why won't he eat this perfectly good meal I made for him?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hm... I mean you can talk to your GF about that, she will probably understand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What is there to talk about? There is nothing wrong with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ask her if she can make some more planty meals because you want to take care of your health, thats usually seen favorable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want me to lie? I'm not necessarily looking for "planty meals". I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that's the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else's skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn't a problem. You wouldn't have been lying if you wanted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Look up the history and origin of making gravy and sauces ... modern gravies and sauces were started and developed in the Middle Ages for beef and meat dishes to mask the taste of rotten or semi rotten food. Yes I know there are other sauces and gravies for vegetables ... but the little dish of gravy for your roast beef supper was started because someone just wanted their food to taste less like a rotting carcass because they had no refrigeration back then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elouboub@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And now they make a nice blend that wouldn't taste the same without meat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago Agreed ... every time I make steak, or chicken, or turkey, or pork, I always carefully collect the drippings, make a roux and mix my own gravy. I've done the same with goose, moose and caribou. Takes lots of practice but now everyone raves about my gravy ... no homo tho. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elouboub@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And now they make a nice blend that wouldn't taste the same without meat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago Agreed ... every time I make steak, or chicken, or turkey, or pork, I always carefully collect the drippings, make a roux and mix my own gravy. I've done the same with goose, moose and caribou. Takes lots of practice but now everyone raves about my gravy ... no homo tho. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago Agreed ... every time I make steak, or chicken, or turkey, or pork, I always carefully collect the drippings, make a roux and mix my own gravy. I've done the same with goose, moose and caribou. Takes lots of practice but now everyone raves about my gravy ... no homo tho. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] No1RivenFucker@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago And I didn't plan on stopping eating those either permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah Shure but why limit yourself from stuff that tastes good? Just limit consumption to reasonable levels, its also a healt thing, but i don't see the need to never eat fish and meat anymore, once a week is ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Yea, one thing I feel is that vegans really are letting perfect be the enemy of good. While I do empathise and am eating less meat myself, I feel like screeching on people being omnis is missing the forest for the trees; if most people did like what you mentioned, eating meat once a week, that's 6/7th less animals slaughtered. Along with the reductions in emissions and whatever environmental impact too, of rearing so many animals for their meat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) When I, a man, am eating by myself I include meat sparingly, but when I eat food prepared by the women in my life, meat is front and centre and hard to avoid. I guess that is the threat to masculinity? The "why won't he eat this perfectly good meal I made for him?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hm... I mean you can talk to your GF about that, she will probably understand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What is there to talk about? There is nothing wrong with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ask her if she can make some more planty meals because you want to take care of your health, thats usually seen favorable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want me to lie? I'm not necessarily looking for "planty meals". I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that's the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else's skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn't a problem. You wouldn't have been lying if you wanted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Yea, one thing I feel is that vegans really are letting perfect be the enemy of good. While I do empathise and am eating less meat myself, I feel like screeching on people being omnis is missing the forest for the trees; if most people did like what you mentioned, eating meat once a week, that's 6/7th less animals slaughtered. Along with the reductions in emissions and whatever environmental impact too, of rearing so many animals for their meat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) When I, a man, am eating by myself I include meat sparingly, but when I eat food prepared by the women in my life, meat is front and centre and hard to avoid. I guess that is the threat to masculinity? The "why won't he eat this perfectly good meal I made for him?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hm... I mean you can talk to your GF about that, she will probably understand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What is there to talk about? There is nothing wrong with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ask her if she can make some more planty meals because you want to take care of your health, thats usually seen favorable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want me to lie? I'm not necessarily looking for "planty meals". I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that's the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else's skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn't a problem. You wouldn't have been lying if you wanted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hm... I mean you can talk to your GF about that, she will probably understand permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What is there to talk about? There is nothing wrong with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ask her if she can make some more planty meals because you want to take care of your health, thats usually seen favorable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want me to lie? I'm not necessarily looking for "planty meals". I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that's the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else's skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn't a problem. You wouldn't have been lying if you wanted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What is there to talk about? There is nothing wrong with the meals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ask her if she can make some more planty meals because you want to take care of your health, thats usually seen favorable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want me to lie? I'm not necessarily looking for "planty meals". I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that's the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else's skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn't a problem. You wouldn't have been lying if you wanted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ask her if she can make some more planty meals because you want to take care of your health, thats usually seen favorable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want me to lie? I'm not necessarily looking for "planty meals". I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that's the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else's skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn't a problem. You wouldn't have been lying if you wanted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want me to lie? I'm not necessarily looking for "planty meals". I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that's the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else's skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn't a problem. You wouldn't have been lying if you wanted that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn't a problem. You wouldn't have been lying if you wanted that. permalink fedilink source parent