▲ 1088 ▼ Fuck forced reverence (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 1 day ago by Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 202 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) You're still famous if people are chanting your name though. For them, infamy and fame are the same thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 child) There are always going to be hitler simps. Humanity is diverse enough that some percentage of the population will be fucked up in the head enough to think that genital herpes is a divine gift. You're never going to influence those people. The goal is to make the everyday man level with the fact that they voted 3 times to have concentration camps and unparalleled corruption in this country. They should never be able to forget it, they should have to live with the shame of those decisions for the rest of their lives. Most of the people involved in this aren't monsters, they were just fearful little morons, and they need to fucking know it so that they can try to do better next time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) I hear you on the level of history should emphasize a "look at what we allowed" rhetoric to instill some semblance of public shame to curtail future behaviour. I just think it's at odds with the reality in which history is read; namely the "look at what these specific villains did, and were they justified" as a form of absolving ourselves and humanizing said villains. If we're going to scapegoat, might as well not draw attention to it at all IMO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* We just let Nazis and Confederate go back to being regular people... And we still have Nazis and Confederates today, because the punishment for fucking up everything was just being told to be quiet about it for a little bit. Let's change that. Don't let magats and trump supporting orgs off the hook this time. Make them lie in the bed they made, just once, and let's see if it works out differently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 child) There are always going to be hitler simps. Humanity is diverse enough that some percentage of the population will be fucked up in the head enough to think that genital herpes is a divine gift. You're never going to influence those people. The goal is to make the everyday man level with the fact that they voted 3 times to have concentration camps and unparalleled corruption in this country. They should never be able to forget it, they should have to live with the shame of those decisions for the rest of their lives. Most of the people involved in this aren't monsters, they were just fearful little morons, and they need to fucking know it so that they can try to do better next time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) I hear you on the level of history should emphasize a "look at what we allowed" rhetoric to instill some semblance of public shame to curtail future behaviour. I just think it's at odds with the reality in which history is read; namely the "look at what these specific villains did, and were they justified" as a form of absolving ourselves and humanizing said villains. If we're going to scapegoat, might as well not draw attention to it at all IMO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* We just let Nazis and Confederate go back to being regular people... And we still have Nazis and Confederates today, because the punishment for fucking up everything was just being told to be quiet about it for a little bit. Let's change that. Don't let magats and trump supporting orgs off the hook this time. Make them lie in the bed they made, just once, and let's see if it works out differently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) I hear you on the level of history should emphasize a "look at what we allowed" rhetoric to instill some semblance of public shame to curtail future behaviour. I just think it's at odds with the reality in which history is read; namely the "look at what these specific villains did, and were they justified" as a form of absolving ourselves and humanizing said villains. If we're going to scapegoat, might as well not draw attention to it at all IMO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* We just let Nazis and Confederate go back to being regular people... And we still have Nazis and Confederates today, because the punishment for fucking up everything was just being told to be quiet about it for a little bit. Let's change that. Don't let magats and trump supporting orgs off the hook this time. Make them lie in the bed they made, just once, and let's see if it works out differently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* We just let Nazis and Confederate go back to being regular people... And we still have Nazis and Confederates today, because the punishment for fucking up everything was just being told to be quiet about it for a little bit. Let's change that. Don't let magats and trump supporting orgs off the hook this time. Make them lie in the bed they made, just once, and let's see if it works out differently. permalink fedilink source parent