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The Antinatalism subreddit basically promoting eugenics against autistic people (lemmy.world)
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[–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Antinatalism says nothing about restricting reproduction, it is just the principle that people should abstain from reproduction. Going about that by forced sterilization, coercion, abuse, or eugenics would be bad for obvious reasons.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    it is just the principle that people should abstain from reproduction.

    Which is griping about reproduction followed by trying to shame people when they don't take the same principled stand. And a quick visit over to the sub shows a few people taking principled stands for themselves and a whole lot blackpilled edgelord "I hate breeders" horseshit. And sure enough there's a different post on the top page ranting about parents with disabilities having kids. Which sounds like.... what?

    The people that have hard opinions about reproduction are acting like eugenicists in that sub.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    A philosophy is different from a Reddit page.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You are right, the reddit page is only a reflect of the people who follows it. Somehow r/Stoicism doesn't have post shaming, harassing people and promting eugenics.

    first post on r/Stoicism today : "“It can only ruin your life if it ruins your character”, so what do you do if you compromise your character?" basically a philosphical question First post today on r/Antinatalism : "To think there are people in constant chronic pain and people still add more people to this torture" considering the right call about a particular neurological disease is to bully pregnant women

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    not what antinatalist says

    Going about that by forced sterilization, coercion, abuse, or eugenics would be bad for obvious reasons

    Yeah an Mein Kampf is a book. The thing is that if antinatalism would genuinely improve the world it means it does have the goal to be implemented in all of society. This mean you're gonna need to set a standard through rules and to enforce them. Those are the means.

    Oh and if Antinatalism think having children is already bad, it clearly present having disabled children as worse

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    it clearly present having disabled children as worse

    What makes you think that? Antinatalism is just a blanket statement of "its best to not reproduce". We don't discriminate that statement to any certain type of individual.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    so now it is not a philosophy anymore ? Antinatalism is not just the term for people who don't want children. It is a political philosophy, with authors, books and currents aiming at answering certain societal problem like overpopulation, overconsumption, discrimination and human suffering. It is a philosophy blaming natalism for many if not most of the problem Antinatalism claim to solve.

    Oh and "What make me think that ?", I don't know ? this very post and the overall vocabulary used by antinatalist when they spoke of disabled children.

    Remember antinatalism is a solution to human suffering, and as you can't deny disabled children suffer a lot more, Antinatalism is therefore more involved.

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