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How to disable S0ix and enable S3 Sleep on Ubuntu 22.04 on Dell Latitude 3410 (lemmy.my.id)

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Hello. I just want to ask, I already tried search many resources, but I still can't find a way to reduce battery drain while sleep on Ubuntu on Dell laptop.

I seen that it use S0ix, the new standard that many manufacturer use but when sleep it drains a lot battery, in just 6 hours the battery gone 0.

Any help is appreciated. This is company laptop and it requires me use ubuntu (I don't like it but I don't have options to changes OS/distro).

Thanks

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[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I remember that on new generations of Intel chips there is no support for S3 at the chipset level, which means that the operating system physically cannot enter the laptop into this mode. On Windows S0ix is better optimized, that's all. Linux has problems with this.

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[–] piexil@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Even on windows S0ix is garbage

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[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

It is better than on Linux but definetly not very good.

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[–] mariom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Have it on work laptop... It wakes laptop for random things, if I put it in backpack I can find empty battery in the morning... Nope, s0ix does not work at all on windows anyway.

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[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

It works quite well on Microsoft Surface Pro. I think a lot depends on the specific manufacturer/drivers. But overall, yes, S0ix is much worse than S3.

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[–] mariom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

And it could be that corporate bloatware is breaking it. I know, and I wasted some time looking if it's possible to use S3 state (nope, it's not on hardware I got -,-)

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[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

:(

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[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Yeah. MS has stopped using S3 since Win8, so Bios vendors and OEMs have been letting it atrophy.

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

MAYBE because they WANT your battery to be EMPTY in the morning so it HAS to go through MORE charge cycles, leading to your battery DYING earlier, so you have to buy a new battery, which means getting a new laptop. COINCIDENCE?

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[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

The Nintendo 3DS, like most Nintendo systems, had the hardware for several generations of older systems in it. It had the full GBA hardware, and it could fully play almost all GBA titles. Nintendo gave away a few GBA titles as a "super secret squirrel fan club" promotion, but never sold any on the 3DS. They threw away a lot of possible game sales, but why?

They'll never say, but the most obvious failing is that the 3DS could not sleep while a GBA game was active. You can close your bivalve console, and instead of it going to sleep the game just keeps on going. That was an unacceptably inconsistent and bad experience for a kid-friendly console.

Nintendo, who controls the firmware, the OS, who validates every game, WHO DESIGNED OR SPEC'D EVERY SINGLE CHIP IN THEIR BOM, simply could not figure out sleep. And they lost a medium-sized fortune in BC game sales over that.

Maybe sleep is just a hard problem?

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago

They didn't care for GBA games enough.

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[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

I like how just the caps words read. Very concise.

Don’t buy a new laptop when you just need a battery
This is real bad user experience, and one of the larger reasons I use a MacBook in spite of its (and apples) many many flaws

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

For point one, that's not possible on today's anti-consumer laptops.

For point two, apple keeps reinventing the computer with their nonstandard sh!t like M1.

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[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@yum13241 @NightAuthor I have to take exception with the idea that Apple makes shit because it is not standard. They are making Macs, so for their platform, that is the standard. If you mean they should have to document their architecture to the outside world, I might agree, but that’s not the world we live in.

Maybe we should have a standards based platform that can be used for opensource platforms like Linux, but that’s an issue Linux hardware developers have to do.

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[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

Idk if this is by design, but I was not notified of this @mention

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Yeah, and now billions of programs have to be recompiled, if not rewritten. At least one person's workflow will break. There's a difference between making a Personal Computer and a locked down console that doesn't run games all that well. Apple is doing the latter, by pushing architectures that lock people into their OSes.

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[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

@yum13241 but don’t programs that run on Linux Arm also have to be recompiled?

Don’t misunderstand me, I think there may be cause for Apple to be forced to open their ecosystem more, but operating systems are always unique unto themselves.

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

No one is forced to use ARM to have a good Linux system. You are forced to use ARM to have a good Mac.

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[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

@yum13241 no one forces you to buy a Mac. You get that most people who buy a Mac are likely to be okay with being in the ecosystem just like most people who use Linux know it is not going to run all the Windows apps. I agree that there should be a more open approach to these things, but in an economic system that prizes competition and profit above all things, closed systems tend to become the norm to distinguish them form their competitors.

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Workplaces might force you to use them.

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[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

@yum13241 in which case everything you would need to do that work is available. He’ll, many of the open source apps people will point to as essential will also run an a Mac.

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

After you spend hours compiling it lol. Also, let's not forget that macOS is generally unfriendly to workflows that require more than one window active. Either you waste tons of space on the dock, menu bar, and title bar, or you maximize it and in the case of browsers, can't change tabs.

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[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

@yum13241 I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve used many open source programs on macOS, already compiled and already packaged to work on Mac’s. What version of macOS are you referring to, 7?

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

I mean cross compiling the Intel version over to the M1 architecture.

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[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

@yum13241 but you don’t actually have to do that as x86 versions will run on a Mac.

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Not for long.

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[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

@yum13241 you have to recompile for Linux arm too, right? It seems you just want excuses to hate macOS.

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

At least Linux ARM doesn't change every year, and is a reliable STANDARD.

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[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

@yum13241 again, just looking for excuses to hate.

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[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago

I'm not looking for a stupid reason to hate. I can't port my software to macOS even if I wanted to, because cross-compiling isn't an option for nonstandard architectures.

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