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The ego required for someone to come to this conclusion in the first place, and then double down on it when pressed, is genuinely astounding (scribe.disroot.org)
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[+] -9 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

People are outraged by what it is doing and how it is doing it, not by whether it fits the strict definition of malware.

Which is kind of what I'm getting at. "Outraged"? Really? Isn't that at least a bit melodramatic considering the stakes and circumstances?

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  • [–] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

    The current reactions you're seeing aren't just about the software, it's also about the person.

    This very meme is about that person doubling down on their misguided belief that they have the right to dictate who is allowed to be visible on the fediverse. Then there's attempts to twist the narrative by claiming the knowledge of this list was always public (in case it needs to said, a block list deliberately omitted from the git and having the code inject it later from a completely different source means deliberate steps were taken to try and hide the existence of the list). And finally there's also the directed attack to ddos the instance that discovered this list, where the attack vector are unknowing users who read his manifesto on his site.

    If we were to just look at the malicious use of the software then yeah, you could make an argument it's been taken too far. But when you factor in the god complex and continued retaliation by the developer I don't think we're at a point where people are overreacting.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

    Yeah. That's what I mean by melodramatic. The situation is not actually that serious. If this situation is the worst thing to happen to you this week then I'd say you had a good week.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 minutes ago

    Don't you find that to be dismissive? I mean if we're already deciding for the people who valid their feelings are we could also say the response hasn't been that harsh because it's only harassment, it's not like there's been an actual murder attempt on the developer. Maybe the developer should also stop being melodramatic?

    Or you know, maybe have some empathy and understand that different people can have different emotional reactions to the same thing. I can understand where you're coming from because I don't really care either. I think the developer already got told they're an asshole for doing what they did and for me that's that. But I also understand not everyone is as unbothered as I am. Some are going to react more strongly and the developer has given them multiple reasons to react that strongly, to the point where the developer has stoked that fire to get an even bigger response. Of course there's a limit to the reaction, for example death threats and such are a step too far and those shouldn't be condoned, but I'm not going to act like I know better how someone else should feel about this situation. In the end we're emotional beings not soulless husks so let people process their emotions.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    The software contained lies of intentional omission.

    People are right to be outraged over being lied to.

    Defending liars is a shit take always.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 hours ago* (1 child)

    Well, I hope you recover from this experience quickly and completely!

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    What did I just say about lying?

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  • [–] -2 points 7 hours ago* (1 child)

    I'm sincere. If you're experiencing real outrage then you have my sympathy and I do hope you feel better soon. Real outrage is not a fun emotional state to be in.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    Just recently I was talking about how, if you're consistently downvoted, it means you're in a asshole.

    People don't pile up and downvote kind, well-intentioned people, but they can smell an unwashed asshole from a mile away.

    If you're getting consistently downvoted for your terrible takes, then you should stop doing what it is that you are doing.

    Also, like, don't presume my emotional state. I give no fucks about whatever you have to say.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    You must be new to the internet.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    Lame. Try harder

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  • [–] -1 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    Fair enough. That was an unkind remark on my part, and your comment does demand a more thorough rebuttal.

    The idea that "popular" = "correct" is stupid on its face. Examples predate the internet, abound on the internet, and will continue to arise long after the internet dies. I could go into a white supremacist forum and talk about racial harmony and get downvoted into oblivion, but that wouldn't make me the asshole. And even if I were the asshole, I wouldn't be wrong.

    Upvotes do not confer moral rectitude. Downvotes are not damnation. And an opinion is not necessarily valid just because it is held by a majority.

    And I'm sorry for presuming your emotional state. But if you're not outraged by this, then why are you arguing that people should be outraged by this?

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