This project began as a post about a year ago, in which we followed the provenance of the data from a study about misinformation until, at the bottom, we found Media Bias/Fact Check. Upon further examination, it turned out that Media Bias/Fact Check is just some guy, and upon him there rests a surprising amount of academic research. We've since turned this into a study with the following abstract:

Media Bias/Fact Check (MBFC) purports to quantify the bias, credibility, and factuality of reporting for roughly 10,000 media sources, and the resulting data is commonly used in misinformation research. In the present study, we show that MBFC's methodology does not meet basic standards of rigor for academic research. Despite its widespread prevalence, studies using MBFC rarely examine it carefully, often describing it in ways that contradict its "About" page, or treating it as authoritative despite MBFC's disclaimer that it is "not a tested scientific method... [but] a simple guide to the idea of a source's bias." We identified no papers that adequately describe MBFC as the opinions of a single person or critically engage with its methodology in order to justify proceeding with its use. We argue that MBFC's data is not neutral or accurate, but a computationally legible account of hegemony, a specious dataset for uncritical research that mistakes the familiarity of the concepts it quantifies with accuracy. Our study concludes with a call for academic researchers to stop using MBFC. MBFC's data quantifies the results of political processes, including campaigns to discredit the press, and presents them as simple facts about the world, thus reproducing the crisis misinformation scholarship exists to address.

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[+] -7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I like MBFC because there literally is no other free source measuring both bias and, more importantly, credibility.

Left / Right bias is fine, as long as the site is credible.

I have not yet seen any site they say is credible, but is not, or vice versa, a site they mark questionable that is actually a valid source.

"Medium Credibility" is not something I personally remove, only Questionable.

Examples:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/press-tv/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/russian-news-agency-tass/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    measuring both bias and, more importantly, credibility.

    It isn't measuring anything though; it doesn't have any kind of methodology for providing a quantitative value. It's just one guy's personal opinion based on vibes.

    I have not yet seen any site they say is credible, but is not, or vice versa, a site they mark questionable that is actually a valid source.

    And how would you even know if it did?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Because I have eyes and have been consuming media for 50 years? LOL.

    But seriously, find someone they say is questionable who is not, or someone they say is credible who is not. It's cool, I'll wait.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    How exactly does the biological fact that you have eyes and consume media allow you to determine whether a source is credible or not. And if that's true, well, we all have eyes and consume media, so what the fuck do we need some random dipshits personal opinion website for.

    But seriously, find someone they say is questionable who is not, or someone they say is credible who is not.

    Multiple examples have already been provided in this very thread, including an outright Israeli propaganda site being marked as reliable.

    It’s cool, I’ll wait.

    Aren't you a middle aged man? Why do you still talk like an insufferable teenage loser?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago

    Aren’t you a middle aged man? Why do you still talk like an insufferable teenage loser?

    His development arrested at the self-centered, know-it-all stage; the cringiest stage.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    With experience comes wisdom. It's really quite simple. If you can't look at a source and go "Well, that has to be bullshit", you're going to have a bad time on the internet.

    Sometimes I get surprised, rarely, it does happen.

    The worst sites are the new ones that pop up with absolutely no history and appear to just be AI slop.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    So what the fuck do we need some random dipshits personal opinion website for?

    Multiple examples have already been provided in this very thread, including an outright Israeli propaganda site being marked as reliable.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Because not everyone is smart enough to recognize that Fox News is bullshit or that TASS is Russian propaganda.

    Further, bad actors will insist "no it's not" to which moderators can simply reply:

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago* (1 child)

    Oh ok. So according to you, you already know which sources are reliable and which aren't, through some kind of innate ability you possess but not everyone else does, and you like MBFC - again by your own account - not because you think it provides you with good information, because you already know which sources are reliable, but because it agrees with you and you can use it to give your innately held knowledge an appearance of not just being vibe based opinion. Again, according to you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    For certain sources? Absolutely. No thought required for removing stuff like Fox, OANN, New York Post, etc. etc. Not any harder than removing a Youtube link or a Twitter screencap.

    Where sites like MBFC are useful is in citing sources when a user wants to be all bitchy about it. "Nuh uh! It's a valid source!"

    "No, your link is bullshit, see? Do better."

    Also handy in differentiating sites that SOUND similar but are definitely NOT the same. Quite a few bullshit and now AI sites name themselves similarly to known valid news organizations to fool people.

    There are a couple that I always have to look up because I can't remember "Wait, which was the bad one again?"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    Yes I know, you've already said you like MBFC, not because you think it provides you with good information, but because it agrees with what you already believe and you can use it to give your innately held opinions an appearance of not just being vibe based opinion. Again, according to you.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Left / Right bias is fine, as long as the site is credible.

    MBFC is literally just some guy's opinion blog, there's nothing credible about it. It has the appearance of neutrality on its cover, and 1 page in it comes out as staunchly pro-zionist.

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