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[β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 176 points 6 days ago (6 children) Somebody needs to hug that person. If they're going to a robot for comfort... permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [β] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 130 points 6 days ago (1 child) People are keyed up and do not have emotional regulation skills. This is a failure of society. We make fun of them for their βfakeβ emotional support animals, their public panic attacks and for their attempts at discreet electronic emotional support. This is also a failure of society. That guy trying to make it through his fight is not the reason the earth or humans are doomed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 6 days ago (2 children) Nobody said hes the reason. Hes a symptom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago* (1 child) There's nothing more human than treating a symptom in counterproductive ways while avoiding the real cause with ridiculous levels of mental gymnastics, because it obviously cannot be that one thing. If it was then we'd have to actually do something about it, which we clearly don't need to! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago Humans, but really all resource constrained things try to do the easiest thing first. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DeLancre@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Hes a syndrom? Everyone can have mental problem! And when everyone's insane... ...no one will be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sadly I think we've proved that's not the case xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DeLancre@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago I'm doing my part!~ permalink fedilink source parent [β] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 55 points 6 days ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago π€£π€£π€£ permalink fedilink source parent [β] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago What's next, GAY Robo-sexual marriage? permalink fedilink source parent [β] JackbyDev@programming.dev 16 points 6 days ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 child) β€οΈβπ₯π₯³ππ« permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago π€π«π΅ permalink fedilink source parent [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago (2 children) I'm married to an autistic man that is incapable of providing emotional support of any kind. I'm one of those people that really needs it. Even I wouldn't resort to this. This is delusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago I hope you have a great support group that can be there for you! You deserve it! My granddaughter has been diagnosed with autism and we're all learning what it means to be a parent and grandparent. You're right it's not the same and some things we just need to learn to live with. And she's wonderful, delightful, and I smile every time I see her. permalink fedilink source parent [β] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 4 points 6 days ago Yeah, but like, I kind of feel that way about prostitution (like I am not going to enjoy myself with someone who's being paid to pretend they're enjoying it) but also, I know a few sex workers who've told me how much of their job is just companionship and listening, holding while people cry, etc. So it's clearly an outlet for some people. We really need to attack the disconnection and loneliness at the root of this, not the symptoms manifested by those suffering. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) Most of people here are fine with this person continuing with it because empathy is fucking dead here. Idk how lemmy became more soulless than reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tempest@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (2 children) Look man im sorry I can't emphasize with a tweet screenshot I'm just trying to get through the day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] arrow74@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago* (1 child) And that's exactly the point. We're so fatigued from the state of the world and separated through the anonymity of the internet that we really have lost the ability to empathize. Our first reaction is anger or ridicule. Not concern or compassion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (1 child) Well the world will self-correct. Those who have isolative tendencies will not reproduce, while others who navigate this digital minefield will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago Ah, I see you went with the ridicule. permalink fedilink source parent [β] bcgm3@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago * EMPHASIZE permalink fedilink source parent [+] Smaile@lemmy.ca -10 points 6 days ago (1 child) Some people can't be saved, some actually are deluded enough to prefer it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (3 children) I like to think everyone can be saved permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 11 points 6 days ago* (2 children) How? How do you reach them? What's the method? Generally? If there's a way, sure, but once you get into thought terminating stuff its really hard, whole point is anchoring/ratcheting bad changes, and this tech is good for ending thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] village604@adultswim.fan 14 points 6 days ago (2 children) Cult deprogramming exists. It's difficult, but not impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* Good luck achieving your cult deprogramming while the entire rest of the world has a 24/7 cult programming going on with much more intensity. permalink fedilink source parent [+] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au -11 points 6 days ago (2 children) Not really. Most of it is just counter-abuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis permalink fedilink source parent [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 0 points 6 days ago It's just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Well in the case of this post you lean forward and strike up a conversation with the guy instead of posting about him online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven't tried using intimacy, haven't tried using sex, haven't tried usingaterial benefit,haven't tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven't tried dosing them with LSD, haven't tried using light violence. Haven't tried most combinations of those. It's just that I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas, thanks for understanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) I think most of those are inappropriate to try doing on a plane, so probably for the best you havenβt tried them. Intimacy and sex with strangers is generally frowned upon, material benefit (Iβm guessing thatβs what you meant) doesnβt really form a connection, religion is a tough sell if youβre not trained for it and not all religions are great, violence would likely create some animosity. Talking to someone though can build connection and trust, which makes it easier to help someone find a better path. I do find taking LSD myself helps me become acquainted with new people, so if youβre like me maybe take a trip in search of sad, lonely people to talk to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago Wow thanks for the totally new ideas! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) I am interested in your theories about how Trump could ever be saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago Narcissists are the exception sometimes. They are extremely reluctant to admit fault and they can't heal until they do. I think over 90% them never get better. For Trump, he's too old, evil and demented to be redeemed now. permalink fedilink source parent [β] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) Did you hear about the guy named Trump? Or Putin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago See I'm generally opposed to human torture or death, but I falter in that belief when it comes to figures like these. After all only people have human rights permalink fedilink source parent
[β] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 130 points 6 days ago (1 child) People are keyed up and do not have emotional regulation skills. This is a failure of society. We make fun of them for their βfakeβ emotional support animals, their public panic attacks and for their attempts at discreet electronic emotional support. This is also a failure of society. That guy trying to make it through his fight is not the reason the earth or humans are doomed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 6 days ago (2 children) Nobody said hes the reason. Hes a symptom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago* (1 child) There's nothing more human than treating a symptom in counterproductive ways while avoiding the real cause with ridiculous levels of mental gymnastics, because it obviously cannot be that one thing. If it was then we'd have to actually do something about it, which we clearly don't need to! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago Humans, but really all resource constrained things try to do the easiest thing first. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DeLancre@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Hes a syndrom? Everyone can have mental problem! And when everyone's insane... ...no one will be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sadly I think we've proved that's not the case xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DeLancre@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago I'm doing my part!~ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 6 days ago (2 children) Nobody said hes the reason. Hes a symptom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago* (1 child) There's nothing more human than treating a symptom in counterproductive ways while avoiding the real cause with ridiculous levels of mental gymnastics, because it obviously cannot be that one thing. If it was then we'd have to actually do something about it, which we clearly don't need to! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago Humans, but really all resource constrained things try to do the easiest thing first. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DeLancre@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Hes a syndrom? Everyone can have mental problem! And when everyone's insane... ...no one will be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sadly I think we've proved that's not the case xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DeLancre@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago I'm doing my part!~ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago* (1 child) There's nothing more human than treating a symptom in counterproductive ways while avoiding the real cause with ridiculous levels of mental gymnastics, because it obviously cannot be that one thing. If it was then we'd have to actually do something about it, which we clearly don't need to! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago Humans, but really all resource constrained things try to do the easiest thing first. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago Humans, but really all resource constrained things try to do the easiest thing first. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DeLancre@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Hes a syndrom? Everyone can have mental problem! And when everyone's insane... ...no one will be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sadly I think we've proved that's not the case xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DeLancre@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago I'm doing my part!~ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Sadly I think we've proved that's not the case xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DeLancre@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago I'm doing my part!~ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DeLancre@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago I'm doing my part!~ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 55 points 6 days ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago π€£π€£π€£ permalink fedilink source parent [β] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago What's next, GAY Robo-sexual marriage? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago What's next, GAY Robo-sexual marriage? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] JackbyDev@programming.dev 16 points 6 days ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 child) β€οΈβπ₯π₯³ππ« permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago π€π«π΅ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 child) β€οΈβπ₯π₯³ππ« permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago π€π«π΅ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago (2 children) I'm married to an autistic man that is incapable of providing emotional support of any kind. I'm one of those people that really needs it. Even I wouldn't resort to this. This is delusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago I hope you have a great support group that can be there for you! You deserve it! My granddaughter has been diagnosed with autism and we're all learning what it means to be a parent and grandparent. You're right it's not the same and some things we just need to learn to live with. And she's wonderful, delightful, and I smile every time I see her. permalink fedilink source parent [β] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 4 points 6 days ago Yeah, but like, I kind of feel that way about prostitution (like I am not going to enjoy myself with someone who's being paid to pretend they're enjoying it) but also, I know a few sex workers who've told me how much of their job is just companionship and listening, holding while people cry, etc. So it's clearly an outlet for some people. We really need to attack the disconnection and loneliness at the root of this, not the symptoms manifested by those suffering. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago I hope you have a great support group that can be there for you! You deserve it! My granddaughter has been diagnosed with autism and we're all learning what it means to be a parent and grandparent. You're right it's not the same and some things we just need to learn to live with. And she's wonderful, delightful, and I smile every time I see her. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 4 points 6 days ago Yeah, but like, I kind of feel that way about prostitution (like I am not going to enjoy myself with someone who's being paid to pretend they're enjoying it) but also, I know a few sex workers who've told me how much of their job is just companionship and listening, holding while people cry, etc. So it's clearly an outlet for some people. We really need to attack the disconnection and loneliness at the root of this, not the symptoms manifested by those suffering. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) Most of people here are fine with this person continuing with it because empathy is fucking dead here. Idk how lemmy became more soulless than reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tempest@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (2 children) Look man im sorry I can't emphasize with a tweet screenshot I'm just trying to get through the day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] arrow74@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago* (1 child) And that's exactly the point. We're so fatigued from the state of the world and separated through the anonymity of the internet that we really have lost the ability to empathize. Our first reaction is anger or ridicule. Not concern or compassion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (1 child) Well the world will self-correct. Those who have isolative tendencies will not reproduce, while others who navigate this digital minefield will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago Ah, I see you went with the ridicule. permalink fedilink source parent [β] bcgm3@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago * EMPHASIZE permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tempest@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (2 children) Look man im sorry I can't emphasize with a tweet screenshot I'm just trying to get through the day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] arrow74@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago* (1 child) And that's exactly the point. We're so fatigued from the state of the world and separated through the anonymity of the internet that we really have lost the ability to empathize. Our first reaction is anger or ridicule. Not concern or compassion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (1 child) Well the world will self-correct. Those who have isolative tendencies will not reproduce, while others who navigate this digital minefield will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago Ah, I see you went with the ridicule. permalink fedilink source parent [β] bcgm3@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago * EMPHASIZE permalink fedilink source parent
[β] arrow74@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago* (1 child) And that's exactly the point. We're so fatigued from the state of the world and separated through the anonymity of the internet that we really have lost the ability to empathize. Our first reaction is anger or ridicule. Not concern or compassion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (1 child) Well the world will self-correct. Those who have isolative tendencies will not reproduce, while others who navigate this digital minefield will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago Ah, I see you went with the ridicule. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (1 child) Well the world will self-correct. Those who have isolative tendencies will not reproduce, while others who navigate this digital minefield will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago Ah, I see you went with the ridicule. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago Ah, I see you went with the ridicule. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Smaile@lemmy.ca -10 points 6 days ago (1 child) Some people can't be saved, some actually are deluded enough to prefer it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (3 children) I like to think everyone can be saved permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 11 points 6 days ago* (2 children) How? How do you reach them? What's the method? Generally? If there's a way, sure, but once you get into thought terminating stuff its really hard, whole point is anchoring/ratcheting bad changes, and this tech is good for ending thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] village604@adultswim.fan 14 points 6 days ago (2 children) Cult deprogramming exists. It's difficult, but not impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* Good luck achieving your cult deprogramming while the entire rest of the world has a 24/7 cult programming going on with much more intensity. permalink fedilink source parent [+] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au -11 points 6 days ago (2 children) Not really. Most of it is just counter-abuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis permalink fedilink source parent [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 0 points 6 days ago It's just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Well in the case of this post you lean forward and strike up a conversation with the guy instead of posting about him online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven't tried using intimacy, haven't tried using sex, haven't tried usingaterial benefit,haven't tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven't tried dosing them with LSD, haven't tried using light violence. Haven't tried most combinations of those. It's just that I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas, thanks for understanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) I think most of those are inappropriate to try doing on a plane, so probably for the best you havenβt tried them. Intimacy and sex with strangers is generally frowned upon, material benefit (Iβm guessing thatβs what you meant) doesnβt really form a connection, religion is a tough sell if youβre not trained for it and not all religions are great, violence would likely create some animosity. Talking to someone though can build connection and trust, which makes it easier to help someone find a better path. I do find taking LSD myself helps me become acquainted with new people, so if youβre like me maybe take a trip in search of sad, lonely people to talk to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago Wow thanks for the totally new ideas! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) I am interested in your theories about how Trump could ever be saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago Narcissists are the exception sometimes. They are extremely reluctant to admit fault and they can't heal until they do. I think over 90% them never get better. For Trump, he's too old, evil and demented to be redeemed now. permalink fedilink source parent [β] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) Did you hear about the guy named Trump? Or Putin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago See I'm generally opposed to human torture or death, but I falter in that belief when it comes to figures like these. After all only people have human rights permalink fedilink source parent
[β] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (3 children) I like to think everyone can be saved permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 11 points 6 days ago* (2 children) How? How do you reach them? What's the method? Generally? If there's a way, sure, but once you get into thought terminating stuff its really hard, whole point is anchoring/ratcheting bad changes, and this tech is good for ending thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] village604@adultswim.fan 14 points 6 days ago (2 children) Cult deprogramming exists. It's difficult, but not impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* Good luck achieving your cult deprogramming while the entire rest of the world has a 24/7 cult programming going on with much more intensity. permalink fedilink source parent [+] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au -11 points 6 days ago (2 children) Not really. Most of it is just counter-abuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis permalink fedilink source parent [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 0 points 6 days ago It's just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Well in the case of this post you lean forward and strike up a conversation with the guy instead of posting about him online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven't tried using intimacy, haven't tried using sex, haven't tried usingaterial benefit,haven't tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven't tried dosing them with LSD, haven't tried using light violence. Haven't tried most combinations of those. It's just that I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas, thanks for understanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) I think most of those are inappropriate to try doing on a plane, so probably for the best you havenβt tried them. Intimacy and sex with strangers is generally frowned upon, material benefit (Iβm guessing thatβs what you meant) doesnβt really form a connection, religion is a tough sell if youβre not trained for it and not all religions are great, violence would likely create some animosity. Talking to someone though can build connection and trust, which makes it easier to help someone find a better path. I do find taking LSD myself helps me become acquainted with new people, so if youβre like me maybe take a trip in search of sad, lonely people to talk to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago Wow thanks for the totally new ideas! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) I am interested in your theories about how Trump could ever be saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago Narcissists are the exception sometimes. They are extremely reluctant to admit fault and they can't heal until they do. I think over 90% them never get better. For Trump, he's too old, evil and demented to be redeemed now. permalink fedilink source parent [β] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) Did you hear about the guy named Trump? Or Putin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago See I'm generally opposed to human torture or death, but I falter in that belief when it comes to figures like these. After all only people have human rights permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 11 points 6 days ago* (2 children) How? How do you reach them? What's the method? Generally? If there's a way, sure, but once you get into thought terminating stuff its really hard, whole point is anchoring/ratcheting bad changes, and this tech is good for ending thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] village604@adultswim.fan 14 points 6 days ago (2 children) Cult deprogramming exists. It's difficult, but not impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* Good luck achieving your cult deprogramming while the entire rest of the world has a 24/7 cult programming going on with much more intensity. permalink fedilink source parent [+] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au -11 points 6 days ago (2 children) Not really. Most of it is just counter-abuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis permalink fedilink source parent [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 0 points 6 days ago It's just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Well in the case of this post you lean forward and strike up a conversation with the guy instead of posting about him online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven't tried using intimacy, haven't tried using sex, haven't tried usingaterial benefit,haven't tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven't tried dosing them with LSD, haven't tried using light violence. Haven't tried most combinations of those. It's just that I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas, thanks for understanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) I think most of those are inappropriate to try doing on a plane, so probably for the best you havenβt tried them. Intimacy and sex with strangers is generally frowned upon, material benefit (Iβm guessing thatβs what you meant) doesnβt really form a connection, religion is a tough sell if youβre not trained for it and not all religions are great, violence would likely create some animosity. Talking to someone though can build connection and trust, which makes it easier to help someone find a better path. I do find taking LSD myself helps me become acquainted with new people, so if youβre like me maybe take a trip in search of sad, lonely people to talk to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago Wow thanks for the totally new ideas! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] village604@adultswim.fan 14 points 6 days ago (2 children) Cult deprogramming exists. It's difficult, but not impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* Good luck achieving your cult deprogramming while the entire rest of the world has a 24/7 cult programming going on with much more intensity. permalink fedilink source parent [+] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au -11 points 6 days ago (2 children) Not really. Most of it is just counter-abuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis permalink fedilink source parent [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 0 points 6 days ago It's just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* Good luck achieving your cult deprogramming while the entire rest of the world has a 24/7 cult programming going on with much more intensity. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au -11 points 6 days ago (2 children) Not really. Most of it is just counter-abuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis permalink fedilink source parent [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 0 points 6 days ago It's just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 0 points 6 days ago It's just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 0 points 6 days ago It's just similar abuse stuff in the other direction, against the cult or cultishness. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Well in the case of this post you lean forward and strike up a conversation with the guy instead of posting about him online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven't tried using intimacy, haven't tried using sex, haven't tried usingaterial benefit,haven't tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven't tried dosing them with LSD, haven't tried using light violence. Haven't tried most combinations of those. It's just that I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas, thanks for understanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) I think most of those are inappropriate to try doing on a plane, so probably for the best you havenβt tried them. Intimacy and sex with strangers is generally frowned upon, material benefit (Iβm guessing thatβs what you meant) doesnβt really form a connection, religion is a tough sell if youβre not trained for it and not all religions are great, violence would likely create some animosity. Talking to someone though can build connection and trust, which makes it easier to help someone find a better path. I do find taking LSD myself helps me become acquainted with new people, so if youβre like me maybe take a trip in search of sad, lonely people to talk to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago Wow thanks for the totally new ideas! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven't tried using intimacy, haven't tried using sex, haven't tried usingaterial benefit,haven't tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven't tried dosing them with LSD, haven't tried using light violence. Haven't tried most combinations of those. It's just that I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas, thanks for understanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) I think most of those are inappropriate to try doing on a plane, so probably for the best you havenβt tried them. Intimacy and sex with strangers is generally frowned upon, material benefit (Iβm guessing thatβs what you meant) doesnβt really form a connection, religion is a tough sell if youβre not trained for it and not all religions are great, violence would likely create some animosity. Talking to someone though can build connection and trust, which makes it easier to help someone find a better path. I do find taking LSD myself helps me become acquainted with new people, so if youβre like me maybe take a trip in search of sad, lonely people to talk to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago Wow thanks for the totally new ideas! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jaycifer@piefed.social 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) I think most of those are inappropriate to try doing on a plane, so probably for the best you havenβt tried them. Intimacy and sex with strangers is generally frowned upon, material benefit (Iβm guessing thatβs what you meant) doesnβt really form a connection, religion is a tough sell if youβre not trained for it and not all religions are great, violence would likely create some animosity. Talking to someone though can build connection and trust, which makes it easier to help someone find a better path. I do find taking LSD myself helps me become acquainted with new people, so if youβre like me maybe take a trip in search of sad, lonely people to talk to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago Wow thanks for the totally new ideas! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cavitationfetishist2@quokk.au 1 point 5 days ago Wow thanks for the totally new ideas! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) I am interested in your theories about how Trump could ever be saved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago Narcissists are the exception sometimes. They are extremely reluctant to admit fault and they can't heal until they do. I think over 90% them never get better. For Trump, he's too old, evil and demented to be redeemed now. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago Narcissists are the exception sometimes. They are extremely reluctant to admit fault and they can't heal until they do. I think over 90% them never get better. For Trump, he's too old, evil and demented to be redeemed now. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) Did you hear about the guy named Trump? Or Putin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago See I'm generally opposed to human torture or death, but I falter in that belief when it comes to figures like these. After all only people have human rights permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago See I'm generally opposed to human torture or death, but I falter in that belief when it comes to figures like these. After all only people have human rights permalink fedilink source parent