▲ 537 ▼ 2A is for everyone (lemmy.world) submitted 3 weeks ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 104 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34641538
[+] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children) They weren't going against the government. Do you think a civil war in current times would end well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] mr_sunburn@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Well friend, in the case of civil rights it depends on which layer of government you're talking about. In the case of Southern states the state governments were absolutely involved in violent action against black people through discrimination, incarceration, police abuses, and turning a blind eye to groups like the KKK or those committing violence against black communities. At the federal level, the security apparatus was definitely working in direct antagonism against Black liberation. Please see this first hand account of why that sort of organization was needed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HnDONDvJVE You and the other responder talking about civil war are fixating on a different question than self defense and community defense. Something like that is unfortunately entirely conceivable, but were not there. I'd look at Minnesota as a great example of the current level of conflict and how to push back on violent targeted state violence. Community organization and building connections with labor to stop the economic engine forced the government to retract the enforcement efforts of Operation Metro Surge. The people won that battle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Minnesota is exactly who I think are doing it right. They have a lot to teach everyone about supporting the people who need it and having teams to keep an eye out. I don't think you have any idea how many people were trying to get the Minnesota peeps to go violent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mr_sunburn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago Well you know me best.... permalink fedilink source parent [–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago Do you think civil war in a distopic 2032 would end well? permalink fedilink source parent [–] aaa999@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago hmm. are there examples of violence carried out by not the government in recent years. hmm. can i think of one of those. hmm. hmm. embarassing, apologize for being dumb on purpose permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago RIP CHAIRMAN HAMPTON permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mr_sunburn@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Well friend, in the case of civil rights it depends on which layer of government you're talking about. In the case of Southern states the state governments were absolutely involved in violent action against black people through discrimination, incarceration, police abuses, and turning a blind eye to groups like the KKK or those committing violence against black communities. At the federal level, the security apparatus was definitely working in direct antagonism against Black liberation. Please see this first hand account of why that sort of organization was needed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HnDONDvJVE You and the other responder talking about civil war are fixating on a different question than self defense and community defense. Something like that is unfortunately entirely conceivable, but were not there. I'd look at Minnesota as a great example of the current level of conflict and how to push back on violent targeted state violence. Community organization and building connections with labor to stop the economic engine forced the government to retract the enforcement efforts of Operation Metro Surge. The people won that battle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Minnesota is exactly who I think are doing it right. They have a lot to teach everyone about supporting the people who need it and having teams to keep an eye out. I don't think you have any idea how many people were trying to get the Minnesota peeps to go violent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mr_sunburn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago Well you know me best.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Minnesota is exactly who I think are doing it right. They have a lot to teach everyone about supporting the people who need it and having teams to keep an eye out. I don't think you have any idea how many people were trying to get the Minnesota peeps to go violent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mr_sunburn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago Well you know me best.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mr_sunburn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago Well you know me best.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago Do you think civil war in a distopic 2032 would end well? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aaa999@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago hmm. are there examples of violence carried out by not the government in recent years. hmm. can i think of one of those. hmm. hmm. embarassing, apologize for being dumb on purpose permalink fedilink source parent