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Trump Fires Blue State Attorney After Less Than an Hour (newrepublic.com)
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The White House has found a novel way to ensure Donald Trump’s nominees ascend to power.

Federal judges in the Western District of Washington swore in former King County Superior Court Judge Roger Rogoff as U.S. attorney Wednesday morning. Within 54 minutes, Trump fired him.

The district’s 17 federal judges have been trying to find a replacement for Seattle’s First Assistant U.S. Attorney Neil Floyd, after Trump failed to formally nominate him. Floyd was appointed in October, though his name was never officially advanced to the Senate for consideration.

Federal law grants a district’s judges the power to appoint a U.S. attorney if the president and the acting attorney general fail to do so within 120 days, subsequently stonewalling the procedural Senate hearings.

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[–] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Rioting

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    And when CBP, the national guard, and police show up and shoot everyone when Trump declares martial law (you know, exactly what Trump wants before the midterms)? What then? I'm taking notes.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    The point is to show up in large enough numbers that it doesn't matter.

    Revolts aren't without risk, and typically bloody.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    I don't disagree. But people generally don't want bombs dropped on their heads and will avoid it until it becomes the final option. Until that time comes, small groups will be shot or imprisoned. Just like what happened in Texas last week. Just like what happened with BLM. There are countless examples of people rising against, only to be stomped because the fed arrives. Trump would love any excuse to fuck over the midterms, and would be happy to kill some left leaning opposition if given the chance.

    Further, the US is very spread out. The cities and urban areas are relatively easy to get together. It's everywhere else that needs the ability to join the crowd. It's not like Europe where it's fairly easy to travel around, unfortunately.

    If you want my thoughts on what we should do, it's to actually hurt what they care about most: their wallets. A general, nationwide strike would work well. However, to make it so people don't just starve to death, we need to set up a strike fund or food network. With that, the strike could last long enough to affect their bottom lines, and people would actually be willing to participate, knowing that their family won't starve to do it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    A general strike is more or less impossible in the US. It would need to be coordinated across multiple key industries in every state, you'd need basically every shipping company and truck driver on board, and it would have to last for weeks. It's simply not a thing that can actually realistically happen in the US.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    No-one said the revolution would be easy, immediate, nor convenient.

    You get the treatment you tolerate.

    Prepare accordingly.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    That is exactly my point. People outside of the US are expecting it to be easy and want immediate results. It won't be easy nor will it be immediate.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Yeah we are actually just expecting it to be done, as pointed out elsewhere.

    This is after a trial run was given and it’s due to a lack of desire to vote. Selfishness.

    Americans ask a shitload of undeserved understanding about this and expect a pass here they wouldn’t give others.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    No, people outside the US are expecting you guys to do it regardless of how hard it is, regardless of results.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Then those people shouldn't expect immediate results.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Nobody is expecting immediate results. People are calling out the lack of action, not the lack of results.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Do you think the most valuable kind of actions are the ones people publicly talk about?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    To move the needle amongst the least politically engaged, yes, those things are very valuable. I know your position is that anyone ignorant of politics are just as bad as the Republicans, so I get why you don't think you need to make your actions visible to engage these people, but reality doesn't really reflect that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    They would probably be talked about online and in the news after they happened, if they were happening. But they aren't really, are they? That's kind of the point. We all know why us US Americans aren't doing anything, but that's not really important since we're still not doing anything.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    While valid, a critical mass is required for any effective action. That's going to take time in a country as large and spread out as the US. I do believe it will happen, the ball has been rolling. People have already been shot and imprisoned for resisting. Some states are fighting back as well. It's just a matter of time until a flashpoint happens and a critical mass is reached. If I had to guess, the midterms are going to be part of that.

    What actions do you suggest?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    You guys are way past the point that many countries would have considered the flashpoint. The thing about reacting too late is that you give the people trying to gain power enough time to prepare to deal with any resistance. I fear it might be to late at this point, but I hope I am wrong. Just page me when you guys finally do something, and I'll root for you from afar.

    I would suggest to at least plan for a mass strikeout in all industries to make your message heard, and to maybe start organising some capability to put up an armed resistance in the off chance that it is too late to make a change through the proper process.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    The problem, again, is how spread out the US is. The cities are very far from each other compared to Europe. The federated system also adds roadblocks. Some states are doing better than others, thanks to the state governments. Some states are doing much, much worse.

    Unfortunately, the US is unlike any country, and not in a good way. Flashpoints here are totally different, if that hasn't been obvious yet. The lower class is in survival mode, an intentional strategy by the Trump administration to keep the poor people distracted. They're walking a fine line, if they go too far and people really start to struggle, it's over. If they don't go far enough, then people will have time to organize.

    I totally agree on the mass strike, so long as a strike fund or food support network is also in place, so people can actually be willing to attend. I think that's actually the best way to approach this, and I've discussed it with some of my neighbors in the past.

    An armed resistance, unless something changes with the military (doubtful), is futile. It's kind of difficult to use small arms against a reaper drone at 50,000 ft. We have the most funded military in the world, and the fascists in charge wouldn't hesitate to use it in this scenario. That doesn't mean people shouldn't prepare for armed conflict, but I'm betting that it would be a relatively quick one.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    I agree with most of what you said, however, it should be noted that the US famously lost the war in Vietnam to a bunch of farmers with holes and booby traps. And insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan kept us busy for over a decade, only for us to pretty much lose those wars as well.

    So I'm not sure it's entirely true that armed resistance would be completely futile. But it certainly would be bloody and drawn out.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I hope you guys can have some headway into organising a general strike before it's too late. As for armed resistance, while you can't win against the US military, and armed resistance can still last longer than an unarmed resistance. It's best to plan and prepare now, so that you can take action if the need arises, rather than attempt one hastily when the time comes.

    Even just planning on how to organise later is better than nothing. Discuss where to meet, how to communicate, how to avoid surveillance, etc with anyone locally with the same mindset. If you can't find anyone near you that would go along with this, that's a bad sign that the flashpoint you're waiting for might not be happening anytime soon.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Even just planning on how to organise later is better than nothing. Discuss where to meet, how to communicate, how to avoid surveillance, etc with anyone locally with the same mindset. If you can’t find anyone near you that would go along with this, that’s a bad sign that the flashpoint you’re waiting for might not be happening anytime soon.

    There's quite a lot of this happening, you're just not going to see it in news articles and comment sections.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    That part is me engaging the other person on what to do behind the scenes. The part about things in the news would be things like general strikes and such. Obviously, those things you quoted wouldn't be, and shouldn't be, on the news to be effective against a tyrannical government.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Right, so like, can we maybe collectively stop chastising America for not having instantly overthrown the government when it turned tyrannical? Maybe some patient, constructive encouragement instead; the constant hostility from ostensive allies will only serve to grind down those here on the fediverse actually trying to do things.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Again, nobody was arguing that you should have already overthrown the government, but people are expecting there to be protests that would not be so easily covered up by this point. This should not be construed as criticism on the people who are already doing something, but as a criticism of America's society as a whole that is so resistant to fighting tyranny despite the efforts of the ones already fighting.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    The national strike is the one. If it’s just the cities that’s more than enough to grind the wheels down. The sooner the better, the larger the more effective. I reckon two weeks to a month would see it out. Congress would move pretty quickly once everything is starved.

    It’ll involve hardship and a willingness to do this without logistical coordination though.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    You surround them and take their shit as soon as they show up. Yes some people are going to get hurt, but thats already happening anyways isnt it. Revolution does not come quietly

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago*

    No, no- Americans don’t want to be told what they need to be doing. They want to be given easy performative bullshit that requires zero risk or sacrifice but telegraphs to everyone that they’re “one of the good ones.”

    Pieces of shit pretty much to the last individual, and at this point they deserve whatever MAGA has planed for them.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Why? To get shot by the police? How long ago was BLM?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    You absolute goddamn coward.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    And yet you haven't been killed in a riot, curious.

    Haphazard corpses don't change the world, no matter how noble their intentions before becoming corpses. This isn't a problem you throw bodies at. This is a problem which requires organization, and strategies more coherent than "Riot".

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