▲ 73 ▼ Senior Israeli source: Gaza will not be Hamastan; ‘roof knocking’ policy no longer norm (www.timesofisrael.com) submitted 2 years ago by snek@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 120 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] jcit878@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah, they have such a great life they would have to give up.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) And who's fault do you think that is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jcit878@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) i cant see the context, but the answer is probably hamas. Any other brain tinglers you got there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Starts with an I, ends with an L. Israel have for years been treating the Gaza Palestinians like second class citizens, apartheid style. Is that a good amount of context for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) im gonna make this really simple cause its pretty fucking easy. there is no context that justifies what hamas did. at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I never said there was context that justifies Hamas targeting civilians, but let me make this really simple for you: The way Israel treats Palestinians in Gaza makes violent uprising inevitable. And no, I cannot blame the Palestinian civilians there for supporting Hamas. They've been living under generations of oppression. They vote for Hamas because as horrible an organisation as it is, they know Hamas has been fighting tooth and nail for their liberation from Israeli oppression. They have actually traded blows with Israel and continue to do so. When you're under that level of oppression, that's all that is needed to justify that level of support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] aniki@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago That picture just shows a map of the ottoman empire permalink fedilink source parent [–] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago what, send soldiers in with the specific aim to kill random palestinians going about their day? Im not going to bother arguing because frankly you have to be a complete brick to make that sort of a case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) And who's fault do you think that is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jcit878@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) i cant see the context, but the answer is probably hamas. Any other brain tinglers you got there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Starts with an I, ends with an L. Israel have for years been treating the Gaza Palestinians like second class citizens, apartheid style. Is that a good amount of context for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) im gonna make this really simple cause its pretty fucking easy. there is no context that justifies what hamas did. at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I never said there was context that justifies Hamas targeting civilians, but let me make this really simple for you: The way Israel treats Palestinians in Gaza makes violent uprising inevitable. And no, I cannot blame the Palestinian civilians there for supporting Hamas. They've been living under generations of oppression. They vote for Hamas because as horrible an organisation as it is, they know Hamas has been fighting tooth and nail for their liberation from Israeli oppression. They have actually traded blows with Israel and continue to do so. When you're under that level of oppression, that's all that is needed to justify that level of support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] aniki@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago That picture just shows a map of the ottoman empire permalink fedilink source parent [–] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago what, send soldiers in with the specific aim to kill random palestinians going about their day? Im not going to bother arguing because frankly you have to be a complete brick to make that sort of a case permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jcit878@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) i cant see the context, but the answer is probably hamas. Any other brain tinglers you got there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Starts with an I, ends with an L. Israel have for years been treating the Gaza Palestinians like second class citizens, apartheid style. Is that a good amount of context for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) im gonna make this really simple cause its pretty fucking easy. there is no context that justifies what hamas did. at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I never said there was context that justifies Hamas targeting civilians, but let me make this really simple for you: The way Israel treats Palestinians in Gaza makes violent uprising inevitable. And no, I cannot blame the Palestinian civilians there for supporting Hamas. They've been living under generations of oppression. They vote for Hamas because as horrible an organisation as it is, they know Hamas has been fighting tooth and nail for their liberation from Israeli oppression. They have actually traded blows with Israel and continue to do so. When you're under that level of oppression, that's all that is needed to justify that level of support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] aniki@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago That picture just shows a map of the ottoman empire permalink fedilink source parent [–] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago what, send soldiers in with the specific aim to kill random palestinians going about their day? Im not going to bother arguing because frankly you have to be a complete brick to make that sort of a case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Starts with an I, ends with an L. Israel have for years been treating the Gaza Palestinians like second class citizens, apartheid style. Is that a good amount of context for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) im gonna make this really simple cause its pretty fucking easy. there is no context that justifies what hamas did. at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I never said there was context that justifies Hamas targeting civilians, but let me make this really simple for you: The way Israel treats Palestinians in Gaza makes violent uprising inevitable. And no, I cannot blame the Palestinian civilians there for supporting Hamas. They've been living under generations of oppression. They vote for Hamas because as horrible an organisation as it is, they know Hamas has been fighting tooth and nail for their liberation from Israeli oppression. They have actually traded blows with Israel and continue to do so. When you're under that level of oppression, that's all that is needed to justify that level of support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] aniki@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago That picture just shows a map of the ottoman empire permalink fedilink source parent [–] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago what, send soldiers in with the specific aim to kill random palestinians going about their day? Im not going to bother arguing because frankly you have to be a complete brick to make that sort of a case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) im gonna make this really simple cause its pretty fucking easy. there is no context that justifies what hamas did. at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I never said there was context that justifies Hamas targeting civilians, but let me make this really simple for you: The way Israel treats Palestinians in Gaza makes violent uprising inevitable. And no, I cannot blame the Palestinian civilians there for supporting Hamas. They've been living under generations of oppression. They vote for Hamas because as horrible an organisation as it is, they know Hamas has been fighting tooth and nail for their liberation from Israeli oppression. They have actually traded blows with Israel and continue to do so. When you're under that level of oppression, that's all that is needed to justify that level of support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] aniki@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago That picture just shows a map of the ottoman empire permalink fedilink source parent [–] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago what, send soldiers in with the specific aim to kill random palestinians going about their day? Im not going to bother arguing because frankly you have to be a complete brick to make that sort of a case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I never said there was context that justifies Hamas targeting civilians, but let me make this really simple for you: The way Israel treats Palestinians in Gaza makes violent uprising inevitable. And no, I cannot blame the Palestinian civilians there for supporting Hamas. They've been living under generations of oppression. They vote for Hamas because as horrible an organisation as it is, they know Hamas has been fighting tooth and nail for their liberation from Israeli oppression. They have actually traded blows with Israel and continue to do so. When you're under that level of oppression, that's all that is needed to justify that level of support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aniki@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago That picture just shows a map of the ottoman empire permalink fedilink source parent [–] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago what, send soldiers in with the specific aim to kill random palestinians going about their day? Im not going to bother arguing because frankly you have to be a complete brick to make that sort of a case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago That picture just shows a map of the ottoman empire permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago what, send soldiers in with the specific aim to kill random palestinians going about their day? Im not going to bother arguing because frankly you have to be a complete brick to make that sort of a case permalink fedilink source parent