▲ 479 ▼ Gary Stevenson: 'Tax wealth or we'll return to the feudal age' (www.bigissue.com) submitted 1 month ago by okwithmydecay@leminal.space to c/unitedkingdom@feddit.uk 138 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) The top richest times list and the top taxpayers list don't have any overlap. The majority of billionaires pay fuck all tax. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) https://nchstats.com/who-pays-most-taxes-in-america/ You’re just wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) You have no idea, tax on income is nothing. We should be taxing wealth, not work. And I was referring to UK times richest list vs top taxpayers list. We tax income, so workers, we don't tax the wealthy who never earnt their money in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) No, you shouldn’t be taxing wealth for all the reasons I’ve listed many times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) We should absolutely be taxing wealth, if we don't the economy will continue to become more and more in the hands of fewer and fewer. Wealth should be taxed, if you can take loans out against the value of your stocks, then that should be taxed. The only other workable solution is to make those types of loans illegal, then taxes on realised gains can actually be utilised. If not, we should absolutely be taxing wealth, otherwise the wealthiest will continue to not pay their fair share. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) “Not pay their fair share” when they each literally pay more than the bottom like 50% combined is an odd thing to say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) That’s a completely void of all logic conclusion you’ve come to. How do you define a “fair share”? Does someone being taxed on the value of all of their assets, including unrealised gains, every year compared to someone who pays only tax on their income, seem “fair”? How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) https://nchstats.com/who-pays-most-taxes-in-america/ You’re just wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) You have no idea, tax on income is nothing. We should be taxing wealth, not work. And I was referring to UK times richest list vs top taxpayers list. We tax income, so workers, we don't tax the wealthy who never earnt their money in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) No, you shouldn’t be taxing wealth for all the reasons I’ve listed many times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) We should absolutely be taxing wealth, if we don't the economy will continue to become more and more in the hands of fewer and fewer. Wealth should be taxed, if you can take loans out against the value of your stocks, then that should be taxed. The only other workable solution is to make those types of loans illegal, then taxes on realised gains can actually be utilised. If not, we should absolutely be taxing wealth, otherwise the wealthiest will continue to not pay their fair share. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) “Not pay their fair share” when they each literally pay more than the bottom like 50% combined is an odd thing to say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) That’s a completely void of all logic conclusion you’ve come to. How do you define a “fair share”? Does someone being taxed on the value of all of their assets, including unrealised gains, every year compared to someone who pays only tax on their income, seem “fair”? How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) You have no idea, tax on income is nothing. We should be taxing wealth, not work. And I was referring to UK times richest list vs top taxpayers list. We tax income, so workers, we don't tax the wealthy who never earnt their money in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) No, you shouldn’t be taxing wealth for all the reasons I’ve listed many times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) We should absolutely be taxing wealth, if we don't the economy will continue to become more and more in the hands of fewer and fewer. Wealth should be taxed, if you can take loans out against the value of your stocks, then that should be taxed. The only other workable solution is to make those types of loans illegal, then taxes on realised gains can actually be utilised. If not, we should absolutely be taxing wealth, otherwise the wealthiest will continue to not pay their fair share. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) “Not pay their fair share” when they each literally pay more than the bottom like 50% combined is an odd thing to say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) That’s a completely void of all logic conclusion you’ve come to. How do you define a “fair share”? Does someone being taxed on the value of all of their assets, including unrealised gains, every year compared to someone who pays only tax on their income, seem “fair”? How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) No, you shouldn’t be taxing wealth for all the reasons I’ve listed many times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) We should absolutely be taxing wealth, if we don't the economy will continue to become more and more in the hands of fewer and fewer. Wealth should be taxed, if you can take loans out against the value of your stocks, then that should be taxed. The only other workable solution is to make those types of loans illegal, then taxes on realised gains can actually be utilised. If not, we should absolutely be taxing wealth, otherwise the wealthiest will continue to not pay their fair share. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) “Not pay their fair share” when they each literally pay more than the bottom like 50% combined is an odd thing to say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) That’s a completely void of all logic conclusion you’ve come to. How do you define a “fair share”? Does someone being taxed on the value of all of their assets, including unrealised gains, every year compared to someone who pays only tax on their income, seem “fair”? How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) We should absolutely be taxing wealth, if we don't the economy will continue to become more and more in the hands of fewer and fewer. Wealth should be taxed, if you can take loans out against the value of your stocks, then that should be taxed. The only other workable solution is to make those types of loans illegal, then taxes on realised gains can actually be utilised. If not, we should absolutely be taxing wealth, otherwise the wealthiest will continue to not pay their fair share. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) “Not pay their fair share” when they each literally pay more than the bottom like 50% combined is an odd thing to say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) That’s a completely void of all logic conclusion you’ve come to. How do you define a “fair share”? Does someone being taxed on the value of all of their assets, including unrealised gains, every year compared to someone who pays only tax on their income, seem “fair”? How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child) “Not pay their fair share” when they each literally pay more than the bottom like 50% combined is an odd thing to say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) That’s a completely void of all logic conclusion you’ve come to. How do you define a “fair share”? Does someone being taxed on the value of all of their assets, including unrealised gains, every year compared to someone who pays only tax on their income, seem “fair”? How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) That’s a completely void of all logic conclusion you’ve come to. How do you define a “fair share”? Does someone being taxed on the value of all of their assets, including unrealised gains, every year compared to someone who pays only tax on their income, seem “fair”? How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) That’s a completely void of all logic conclusion you’ve come to. How do you define a “fair share”? Does someone being taxed on the value of all of their assets, including unrealised gains, every year compared to someone who pays only tax on their income, seem “fair”? How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) I’m sorry but s soon as you start using the “exploit” when talking about wealth, you give yourself up. Let me guess - capitalism is the problem, and socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...? Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you think socialism or communism is the answer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem? I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) And by “properly” you actually mean unfairly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper. When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class. The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave. They are parasites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago The 1% pay more taxes than they bottom 50% combined. Probably closer to the bottom 75% permalink fedilink source parent