▲ 826 ▼ Elon Musk Is Charging Starlink Customers Gigantic Bogus Fees Because Its Network Is Being Crushed by “High Demand” (www.yahoo.com) submitted 3 weeks ago by NM_Gringo@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 265 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) they're not getting cable. why not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Hundreds of miles of expensive cable because terrain make expensive to serve dozens of hundreds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) It's significantly cheaper still. Cable is dirt cheap, technology of laying cable is mature and we already have roads developed to piggy back off infra off. Now think about satellites that only live a few years and are incredibly expensive and immature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) 20,000-30,000 miles to cover 250,000-300,000 people (I looked for numbers based on places with at least 100 people) for a total cost of $2,000,000,000-$7,000,000,000. Good luck with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago Source? that's obviously not true permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) Which part of permafrost do you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago Beyond permafrost it's also extremely remote and often separated from Anchorage (metro area has the majority of the population of Alaska, at a similar population to the city of Cleveland) by national parks, mountains, and rivers. It's very expensive to run cable out to such small populations permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 weeks ago Do they have electricity? permalink fedilink source parent [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Cables dont freeze lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Ah. I see. You're thinking to let the fiberglass cables lose on top of permafrost like it's a hose from a shed. If you're able, you can learn why that is a bad idea online. There is plethora of reasons why fiberglass cables usually go underground. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) I genuinely don't understand you. Ok so they go underground next to a road - then what? They freeze and explode? Or do you imply we can't afford to dig ditches but can afford to fire rockets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shitbrains@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Which road? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Are you implying there's a large amount of people not connected by roads? How many you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Block me too, while you're at it, since you can't even fucking google basic shit. Jesus christ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago done, bye loser permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) I literally direct you again to fucking google that, because the first response from Google literally tells you why that will not fucking work. Are you so entitled that you demand we copy paste it for your pleasure. The google will include the over-the-air elevated fibreglass that costs 20x more per mile than anywhere else, why it would cost one third of that number a year to maintain, why it cannot go underground (because of permafrost melting when being dug up and turning into mud and bog and sinking the installation and million other things), thst there are no roads in many places at all, etc. etc. Your laziness is offending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago Lmao rage more you fuckong weirdo. Straight to the block list. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Hundreds of miles of expensive cable because terrain make expensive to serve dozens of hundreds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) It's significantly cheaper still. Cable is dirt cheap, technology of laying cable is mature and we already have roads developed to piggy back off infra off. Now think about satellites that only live a few years and are incredibly expensive and immature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) 20,000-30,000 miles to cover 250,000-300,000 people (I looked for numbers based on places with at least 100 people) for a total cost of $2,000,000,000-$7,000,000,000. Good luck with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago Source? that's obviously not true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) It's significantly cheaper still. Cable is dirt cheap, technology of laying cable is mature and we already have roads developed to piggy back off infra off. Now think about satellites that only live a few years and are incredibly expensive and immature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) 20,000-30,000 miles to cover 250,000-300,000 people (I looked for numbers based on places with at least 100 people) for a total cost of $2,000,000,000-$7,000,000,000. Good luck with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago Source? that's obviously not true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) 20,000-30,000 miles to cover 250,000-300,000 people (I looked for numbers based on places with at least 100 people) for a total cost of $2,000,000,000-$7,000,000,000. Good luck with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago Source? that's obviously not true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago Source? that's obviously not true permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children) Which part of permafrost do you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago Beyond permafrost it's also extremely remote and often separated from Anchorage (metro area has the majority of the population of Alaska, at a similar population to the city of Cleveland) by national parks, mountains, and rivers. It's very expensive to run cable out to such small populations permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 weeks ago Do they have electricity? permalink fedilink source parent [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Cables dont freeze lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Ah. I see. You're thinking to let the fiberglass cables lose on top of permafrost like it's a hose from a shed. If you're able, you can learn why that is a bad idea online. There is plethora of reasons why fiberglass cables usually go underground. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) I genuinely don't understand you. Ok so they go underground next to a road - then what? They freeze and explode? Or do you imply we can't afford to dig ditches but can afford to fire rockets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shitbrains@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Which road? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Are you implying there's a large amount of people not connected by roads? How many you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Block me too, while you're at it, since you can't even fucking google basic shit. Jesus christ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago done, bye loser permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) I literally direct you again to fucking google that, because the first response from Google literally tells you why that will not fucking work. Are you so entitled that you demand we copy paste it for your pleasure. The google will include the over-the-air elevated fibreglass that costs 20x more per mile than anywhere else, why it would cost one third of that number a year to maintain, why it cannot go underground (because of permafrost melting when being dug up and turning into mud and bog and sinking the installation and million other things), thst there are no roads in many places at all, etc. etc. Your laziness is offending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago Lmao rage more you fuckong weirdo. Straight to the block list. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago Beyond permafrost it's also extremely remote and often separated from Anchorage (metro area has the majority of the population of Alaska, at a similar population to the city of Cleveland) by national parks, mountains, and rivers. It's very expensive to run cable out to such small populations permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 weeks ago Do they have electricity? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Cables dont freeze lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Ah. I see. You're thinking to let the fiberglass cables lose on top of permafrost like it's a hose from a shed. If you're able, you can learn why that is a bad idea online. There is plethora of reasons why fiberglass cables usually go underground. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) I genuinely don't understand you. Ok so they go underground next to a road - then what? They freeze and explode? Or do you imply we can't afford to dig ditches but can afford to fire rockets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shitbrains@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Which road? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Are you implying there's a large amount of people not connected by roads? How many you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Block me too, while you're at it, since you can't even fucking google basic shit. Jesus christ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago done, bye loser permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) I literally direct you again to fucking google that, because the first response from Google literally tells you why that will not fucking work. Are you so entitled that you demand we copy paste it for your pleasure. The google will include the over-the-air elevated fibreglass that costs 20x more per mile than anywhere else, why it would cost one third of that number a year to maintain, why it cannot go underground (because of permafrost melting when being dug up and turning into mud and bog and sinking the installation and million other things), thst there are no roads in many places at all, etc. etc. Your laziness is offending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago Lmao rage more you fuckong weirdo. Straight to the block list. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Ah. I see. You're thinking to let the fiberglass cables lose on top of permafrost like it's a hose from a shed. If you're able, you can learn why that is a bad idea online. There is plethora of reasons why fiberglass cables usually go underground. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) I genuinely don't understand you. Ok so they go underground next to a road - then what? They freeze and explode? Or do you imply we can't afford to dig ditches but can afford to fire rockets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shitbrains@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Which road? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Are you implying there's a large amount of people not connected by roads? How many you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Block me too, while you're at it, since you can't even fucking google basic shit. Jesus christ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago done, bye loser permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) I literally direct you again to fucking google that, because the first response from Google literally tells you why that will not fucking work. Are you so entitled that you demand we copy paste it for your pleasure. The google will include the over-the-air elevated fibreglass that costs 20x more per mile than anywhere else, why it would cost one third of that number a year to maintain, why it cannot go underground (because of permafrost melting when being dug up and turning into mud and bog and sinking the installation and million other things), thst there are no roads in many places at all, etc. etc. Your laziness is offending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago Lmao rage more you fuckong weirdo. Straight to the block list. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children) I genuinely don't understand you. Ok so they go underground next to a road - then what? They freeze and explode? Or do you imply we can't afford to dig ditches but can afford to fire rockets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shitbrains@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Which road? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Are you implying there's a large amount of people not connected by roads? How many you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Block me too, while you're at it, since you can't even fucking google basic shit. Jesus christ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago done, bye loser permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) I literally direct you again to fucking google that, because the first response from Google literally tells you why that will not fucking work. Are you so entitled that you demand we copy paste it for your pleasure. The google will include the over-the-air elevated fibreglass that costs 20x more per mile than anywhere else, why it would cost one third of that number a year to maintain, why it cannot go underground (because of permafrost melting when being dug up and turning into mud and bog and sinking the installation and million other things), thst there are no roads in many places at all, etc. etc. Your laziness is offending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago Lmao rage more you fuckong weirdo. Straight to the block list. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shitbrains@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Which road? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Are you implying there's a large amount of people not connected by roads? How many you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Block me too, while you're at it, since you can't even fucking google basic shit. Jesus christ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago done, bye loser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Are you implying there's a large amount of people not connected by roads? How many you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Block me too, while you're at it, since you can't even fucking google basic shit. Jesus christ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago done, bye loser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Block me too, while you're at it, since you can't even fucking google basic shit. Jesus christ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 point 2 weeks ago done, bye loser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child) I literally direct you again to fucking google that, because the first response from Google literally tells you why that will not fucking work. Are you so entitled that you demand we copy paste it for your pleasure. The google will include the over-the-air elevated fibreglass that costs 20x more per mile than anywhere else, why it would cost one third of that number a year to maintain, why it cannot go underground (because of permafrost melting when being dug up and turning into mud and bog and sinking the installation and million other things), thst there are no roads in many places at all, etc. etc. Your laziness is offending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago Lmao rage more you fuckong weirdo. Straight to the block list. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago Lmao rage more you fuckong weirdo. Straight to the block list. Bye. permalink fedilink source parent