▲ 432 ▼ Israel announces 'total' blockade on Gaza (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by tryptaminev@feddit.de to c/world@lemmy.world 268 comments fedilink hide all child comments Edited title to match articles title.
[+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) they clearly harbor terrorists Most people are innocent civilians and none of them asked for this shit. So instead of working with Israel, they chose to let Hamas represent them. Makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) You think any of this is democratic? Most Gazans have never voted in an election permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) And how does this undermine their ability to reject Hamas? They could have worked with Israel if they disagreed with Hamas and all that they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is this supposed to be some sort of racist “terrorist until proven innocent” argument? The world isn’t as simple as “Just overthrow your government if they’re bad”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You made a strawman here, not all Palestinians are terrorists. I also didn't make the argument that Palestinians are expected to overthrow Hamas. Palestinians can undermine Hamas by giving information to the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugel7c@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Which is a stupid thing to say knowing full well that the IDF doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, or anything said by them. The IDF and the Israeli police and public regularly take Palestinian land, harrass their people, as well as jail and kill them. How would any Palestinians suffering from that situation even begin to trust the IDF for anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) You think any of this is democratic? Most Gazans have never voted in an election permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) And how does this undermine their ability to reject Hamas? They could have worked with Israel if they disagreed with Hamas and all that they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is this supposed to be some sort of racist “terrorist until proven innocent” argument? The world isn’t as simple as “Just overthrow your government if they’re bad”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You made a strawman here, not all Palestinians are terrorists. I also didn't make the argument that Palestinians are expected to overthrow Hamas. Palestinians can undermine Hamas by giving information to the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugel7c@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Which is a stupid thing to say knowing full well that the IDF doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, or anything said by them. The IDF and the Israeli police and public regularly take Palestinian land, harrass their people, as well as jail and kill them. How would any Palestinians suffering from that situation even begin to trust the IDF for anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) And how does this undermine their ability to reject Hamas? They could have worked with Israel if they disagreed with Hamas and all that they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is this supposed to be some sort of racist “terrorist until proven innocent” argument? The world isn’t as simple as “Just overthrow your government if they’re bad”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You made a strawman here, not all Palestinians are terrorists. I also didn't make the argument that Palestinians are expected to overthrow Hamas. Palestinians can undermine Hamas by giving information to the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugel7c@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Which is a stupid thing to say knowing full well that the IDF doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, or anything said by them. The IDF and the Israeli police and public regularly take Palestinian land, harrass their people, as well as jail and kill them. How would any Palestinians suffering from that situation even begin to trust the IDF for anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is this supposed to be some sort of racist “terrorist until proven innocent” argument? The world isn’t as simple as “Just overthrow your government if they’re bad”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You made a strawman here, not all Palestinians are terrorists. I also didn't make the argument that Palestinians are expected to overthrow Hamas. Palestinians can undermine Hamas by giving information to the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugel7c@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Which is a stupid thing to say knowing full well that the IDF doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, or anything said by them. The IDF and the Israeli police and public regularly take Palestinian land, harrass their people, as well as jail and kill them. How would any Palestinians suffering from that situation even begin to trust the IDF for anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Anduin1357@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You made a strawman here, not all Palestinians are terrorists. I also didn't make the argument that Palestinians are expected to overthrow Hamas. Palestinians can undermine Hamas by giving information to the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kugel7c@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Which is a stupid thing to say knowing full well that the IDF doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, or anything said by them. The IDF and the Israeli police and public regularly take Palestinian land, harrass their people, as well as jail and kill them. How would any Palestinians suffering from that situation even begin to trust the IDF for anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kugel7c@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago Which is a stupid thing to say knowing full well that the IDF doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, or anything said by them. The IDF and the Israeli police and public regularly take Palestinian land, harrass their people, as well as jail and kill them. How would any Palestinians suffering from that situation even begin to trust the IDF for anything. permalink fedilink source parent