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Andy Burnham Declines to Call Israel’s Mass Killings in Gaza a Genocide (novaramedia.com)
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[–] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Anyone still advocating for a two-state solution is a Zionist enabler. People only bring that up out of ignorance or as a shiny thing to point at to prevent real progress.

Sorry, but the "two state solution" has been dead and rotted in the ground for over a decade at this point. No serious person could look at a map of what used to be the West Bank and conclude that a two-state solution is anything other than a distraction technique in 2026. The West Bank is a Swiss cheese, the Palestinian population crammed into small ghettos isolated from each other. Trying to make a unified sovereign nation out of the West Bank would be like trying to make one out of the US's Indian reservations.

https://www.doi.gov/sites/default/files/uploads/12_bia_regions.pdf

A separate Palestinian state in 2026 is as delusional and enabling to fascists as a hypothetical liberal in the 1970s arguing for that South African Apartheid should be solved by giving the Bantustans independence.

South African Bantustans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan#%2Fmedia%2FFile%3ASouth_Africa_=&_South_West_Africa_Bantustans_Map.svg=

Current state of the former West Bank:
https://www.ochaopt.org/content/west-bank-access-restrictions-map-december-2025

Feckless liberals love the two state solution. They love it because it requires them to advocate for nothing of substance. You don't have to actually do anything to "work towards" a two state solution. You can advocate for it without angering many people. But in practice it just enables Zionism. The two state solution made sense decades ago, while there was still a unified geographic area called the West Bank that could serve as a seat for a Palestinian state. Now "The West Bank" is a series of tiny ghettos landlocked within the Israeli regions of Judea and Sumeria. This is the reality the Zionists created on the ground while everyone else was fellating themselves about the two state solution.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for a delicious chocolate cake.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    So you don't want whatever a two state solution is, ok, what do you want?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    There are only three potential futures for Israel/Palestine:

    1. Apartheid (the status quo.)
    2. Genocide/ethnic cleansing
    3. A unified secular state representing all ethnic and religious groups (the post-Apartheid South Africa model.)

    I would prefer option 3. I know some campist clowns will say things like, "Israel should be destroyed!" But that's fantasy. Israel has a population of 10 million people. 80% of them were born there. You're talking millions of people with nowhere to go. Oh, and no one can force the Israelis out, as they have hydrogen bombs.

    I hope for a better future, and that's the only one that isn't a nightmare. There is a national identity waiting to be forged there, if things could go that way. The Israelis are very much the spiritual descendants of ancient Israel, while the Palestinians are the genetic descendants of ancient Israel. There's a path there to a shared national identity.

    The rest of the world should not be demanding a two state solution. The Israelis themselves have made that approach impossible. Instead, we should be demanding full freedom and equality for Israel's slave population (which is what the Palestinians functionally are at this point.) Palestinians are used by Israelis for their labor, but they have no control over the laws that govern them. They're born into this status and have no way to escape it. They have severely restricted freedom of movement and are carefully controlled and surveilled. What are they at this point other than a slave caste of the Israelis?

    We should not allow a nation to keep millions of innocent people in bondage. That needs to be the central moral call. Independence for the Palestinians isn't possible (unless they want to try and carve a homeland out of Antarctica.) The Israelis themselves aren't going anywhere. So there are your choices. Slavery. Genocide. Equality. I choose equality. We should be demanding that every resident of the West Bank and Gaza be granted full and equal Israeli citizenship. Israel deliberately made it so these people couldn't form their own state, so they can just be Israelis. Countries should demand this and start cutting trade and diplomatic ties until ends this nightmare.

    Really, at this point, the only positive outcome for the Palestinians is full and equal Israeli citizenship.

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