▲ 540 ▼ Who is serving whom? (media.piefed.world) submitted 1 month ago by s@piefed.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 month ago (2 children) Instead of always having a portion of the population always living in fear, we should just stop doing states and manage things ourselves permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) How do you handle disputes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) You talk with the other person and come to an understanding. Or both of you agree to ask another member of the community to arbitrate. Or you bring it up at the next community meeting. There are several ways to end a dispute that doesn't require a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] s@piefed.world [S] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) And if the other person/party does not agree to settle things peacefully/diplomatically? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's why you bring it up to the community, so it can be addressed collectively. The guiding principle being An Injury to One is an Injury to All permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Juris_LLM@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) Sounds an awful lot like a state... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago No? A collective isn't hierarchical, a state is. Profoundly different institutional structures. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) You don't know what a state is then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Enlightened us please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago How would you want it to be handled if that happened? permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago What if I hate talking? Can I get someone else to do it for me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Bad people will always find a way to take control over the state, that and their ecodical nature makes them unstable in the long run permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) How do you handle disputes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) You talk with the other person and come to an understanding. Or both of you agree to ask another member of the community to arbitrate. Or you bring it up at the next community meeting. There are several ways to end a dispute that doesn't require a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] s@piefed.world [S] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) And if the other person/party does not agree to settle things peacefully/diplomatically? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's why you bring it up to the community, so it can be addressed collectively. The guiding principle being An Injury to One is an Injury to All permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Juris_LLM@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) Sounds an awful lot like a state... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago No? A collective isn't hierarchical, a state is. Profoundly different institutional structures. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) You don't know what a state is then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Enlightened us please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago How would you want it to be handled if that happened? permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago What if I hate talking? Can I get someone else to do it for me? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) You talk with the other person and come to an understanding. Or both of you agree to ask another member of the community to arbitrate. Or you bring it up at the next community meeting. There are several ways to end a dispute that doesn't require a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] s@piefed.world [S] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) And if the other person/party does not agree to settle things peacefully/diplomatically? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's why you bring it up to the community, so it can be addressed collectively. The guiding principle being An Injury to One is an Injury to All permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Juris_LLM@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) Sounds an awful lot like a state... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago No? A collective isn't hierarchical, a state is. Profoundly different institutional structures. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) You don't know what a state is then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Enlightened us please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago How would you want it to be handled if that happened? permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago What if I hate talking? Can I get someone else to do it for me? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] s@piefed.world [S] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) And if the other person/party does not agree to settle things peacefully/diplomatically? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's why you bring it up to the community, so it can be addressed collectively. The guiding principle being An Injury to One is an Injury to All permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Juris_LLM@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) Sounds an awful lot like a state... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago No? A collective isn't hierarchical, a state is. Profoundly different institutional structures. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) You don't know what a state is then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Enlightened us please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago How would you want it to be handled if that happened? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's why you bring it up to the community, so it can be addressed collectively. The guiding principle being An Injury to One is an Injury to All permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Juris_LLM@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) Sounds an awful lot like a state... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago No? A collective isn't hierarchical, a state is. Profoundly different institutional structures. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) You don't know what a state is then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Enlightened us please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Juris_LLM@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) Sounds an awful lot like a state... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago No? A collective isn't hierarchical, a state is. Profoundly different institutional structures. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) You don't know what a state is then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Enlightened us please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago No? A collective isn't hierarchical, a state is. Profoundly different institutional structures. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) You don't know what a state is then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Enlightened us please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Enlightened us please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) State, noun: 4a. a body of persons constituting a special class in a society Asking the entire community to address a situation is not a special class permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) What does the "4a" part signify? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) There are several dictionary definitions of the word "state". This is the definition I'm using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) There's other definitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) ... Yes. Do I really need to state the potential states of the word state for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick the exact one that fits your argument, when there's very obviously other definitions that support the person you're arguing with. So yes, I guess I do need that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I didn't cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. When you use a word that has multiple different definitions, you select a definition for that usage. That's how language works. A scientist talking about states of matter doesn't use every possible definition, nor do they cherry pick a definition. They use 1 of multiple definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I didn’t cherry pick anything. I used the word as defined in the dictionary. So you picked the exact version of the definition which supports you argument, in favor of the more appropriate definitions which are right there for you to see, which don't support your argument. But you're not cherry picking. If I ask you how that's not literally cherry picking will you respond with Noun 2a cherry picking: the act of harvesting cherries from a cherry orchard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Definition of the word state There are 8 definitions of the noun and 2 definitions of the verb. In the sentence "abolish the state", which definition is best? I would posit 4a fits best. That is how I use the word in a political context. Based on context clues, you assumed I was using the more broad 5a. Just because you're operating under a different assumption doesn't make it cherry picking permalink fedilink source parent
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago How would you want it to be handled if that happened? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago What if I hate talking? Can I get someone else to do it for me? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Bad people will always find a way to take control over the state, that and their ecodical nature makes them unstable in the long run permalink fedilink source parent