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Tested: Microsoft just debloated Windows 11 Search without Bing, and it's crazy fast (www.windowslatest.com)
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[–] 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That's nonsense. Every computer I own boots in under a minute. That was unheard of in the 90s, much less the 80s.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Eehhh… this person is wrong about programmers and business models but DOS machines did boot really fast (my 486 boots to DOS in about 20 seconds) and C64s and Apple IIs and such were all ROM based and so booted instantly like a Super Nintendo.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I put an ssd in a laptop from 2003, it boots to desktop on antix just as fast as my T14 running opensuse.

    When this laptop was running XP spinning rust, it took 5 minutes to get to desktop, 10 minutes to do anything useful. SSDs have made that possible, pretty much nothing to do with anything else.

    My dad had a C64 that I'd play around with, and I can confirm, it booted in seconds. Loading a program was a different matter.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You realize most computers in the 80's instantly booted right? Flip power switch and they booted to an internal rom. I'm sorry, are you fairly young?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Except they did instantly boot. I didn't say anything about how long they took to load a program, and if you had a cartridge, it instantly loaded as well. Have you actually used these computers, or just remember slow tape drives? Not that modern ones are fast by any means either, they just move more data and are prohibitively expensive.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Apple, Commodore all booted into their OS instantly. Disk drives worked, no BIOS needed. Care to explain what you can do with that? You could easily boot DOS within 40 seconds on a 486. Can't do that on Windows at all these days and we are talking 30 years later.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Except the basic premise is true, and you can't deny it. Those computers booted to a workable interface far quicker than any modern computer. Modern phones shouldn't need the same level of bloat as modern computers, so your Linux argument fails there as well. Feel free to let us know when android instantly boots, or iOS, even though both have to support very few 'different devices and interfaces'.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Anecdotes ≠ proof

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Here is a 486 taking over three minutes to boot.

    The person you replied to countered a broad generalization with an anecdote which probably matches the lived experience of most of us oldies who lived through the time. Your comment did not contribute to the conversation.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago

    Once again, that’s a single video of one example of an old computer booting up. It’s hardly irrefutable, like anything anecdotal. I’m not even disagreeing on the consensus of newer computers being undeniably faster, this is just a flimsy evidence regardless.

    And frankly I don’t care about “contributing” as you describe it. That just amounts to adhering to everyone’s idea of contribution on social media, and I’m not Sisyphus, so…

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