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[–] PixellatedDave@feddit.uk 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think also rich people need to have poor people otherwise they won't be seen to be rich. Also wealth = power

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[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

you make a good point, but i think of "rich people" as the families who have been unimaginably wealthy for hundreds of years. not musk, not bezos, bill gates, etc. the "old money" doesn't care if you know they're rich--in fact they would prefer you didn't. they just want to control the trajectory of your life in order to keep you in your place, and prevent you from encroaching on their position of power.

think warburgs and rothschilds, not the idiotic rich people flaunting their wealth on twitter

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[–] tyler@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Porque no los dos?

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[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

i mean, fuck musk and bezos and all the rest too. call me a conspiracy theorist, but i'm skeptical of the notion that these people are actually the "richest" of all rich people

Bill Gates didn’t exactly not come from money.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

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[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

While raising their children, Bill Sr. and Mary instilled in them a strong work ethic, the importance of community and the significance of helping others.
https://people.com/all-about-bill-gates-parents-8624696

that could all be a lie of course, who knows...

yes, bill gates's parents were loaded. i'm talking about families that have been too wealthy to measure for many many generations, since banking was invented

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Are you saying tech oligarchs don't have as much desire or ability to control people's lives and prevent threats to their power?

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[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

desire or ability to control people’s lives

no. the desire is there. and in some cases the ability too.

but they are still muppets, controlled by people more powerful than they are. the fact that elon musk, the "richest man in the world" doesn't get everything he wants should tell you something.

you need to change your mindset away from thinking people like elon musk are the top of the food chain. he's fucking not.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I hear what you're saying, that at a certain level of wealth the power hierarchy becomes about seniority, and I don't know that it's wrong, but I'm not sure what reason there is to believe it either. Certainly people like elon musk are not all powerful, but what does that really say about the state of things when it would be hard to point to anyone who gets everything they want on a level beyond that?

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[–] taj@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago

There's more to wealth than pure money. Musk has the money. What he doesn't have is the generations of wealth, that came before. Some of that can't be bought.

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[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

i don't get what your argument is. that we don't objectively know who the people above elon musk are, so therefore they must not exist?

what DOES that say about the state of things? you tell me

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Not a lot, as far as I can tell? I'm more expressing doubt than making an argument. You are claiming you know they do exist and what defines them, but I don't see reasons to be confident about that.

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