▲ 154 ▼ If we wanted death and destruction we would just support the status quo (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 comments fedilink hide all child comments Sources: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/antarctica-winter-heatwave-hits-record-15-4-c-alarming-scientists/ss-AA25zBRr https://ourworldindata.org/world-lost-one-third-forests https://www.theweek.in/news/health/2023/10/10/study-finds-climate-change-could-render-india-and-the-indus-vall.html https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-made-materials-now-weigh-more-all-life-earth-combined-180976522/ www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd https://hsph.harvard.edu/climate-health-c-change/news/fossil-fuel-air-pollution-responsible-for-1-in-5-deaths-worldwide/
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (2 children) Uh, you got a source on that 1 in 5 number? Not saying it's wrong, but that's a pretty bold claim. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children) Sure, there ya go. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jwiggler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago holy fuck permalink fedilink source parent [–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) This is why I say it's good when gas prices rise and become less affordable. Yes, having less access to fuel harms people but it's hard to believe that harm is more than the harm of burning fossil fuels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Capitalism burns trough resources too quickly. We should be conserving that oil until we have local food production for everyone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago If you're talking about a total cessation of oil then yeah probably. But I think we could get by on a lot less than we do now, so if it gradually ramped down that would be a clear win for most people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] andresil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Actually, do you have links for all, would be really nice to have evidence to back myself up next time I have to speak to a stupid climate change denier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) In hindsight, I should have attached those right away https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/antarctica-winter-heatwave-hits-record-15-4-c-alarming-scientists/ss-AA25zBRr https://ourworldindata.org/world-lost-one-third-forests https://www.theweek.in/news/health/2023/10/10/study-finds-climate-change-could-render-india-and-the-indus-vall.html https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-made-materials-now-weigh-more-all-life-earth-combined-180976522/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd https://hsph.harvard.edu/climate-health-c-change/news/fossil-fuel-air-pollution-responsible-for-1-in-5-deaths-worldwide/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd They found an average decline of 0.045 milligrams per liter per decade, with 78.8% of rivers in the dataset showing signs of deoxygenation. Wildly different from the given claim. There is nothing in the article that suggest 80% of rivers are currently experiencing hypoxia. This kind of posting invites doomerism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children) Sure, there ya go. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jwiggler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago holy fuck permalink fedilink source parent [–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) This is why I say it's good when gas prices rise and become less affordable. Yes, having less access to fuel harms people but it's hard to believe that harm is more than the harm of burning fossil fuels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Capitalism burns trough resources too quickly. We should be conserving that oil until we have local food production for everyone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago If you're talking about a total cessation of oil then yeah probably. But I think we could get by on a lot less than we do now, so if it gradually ramped down that would be a clear win for most people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 child) This is why I say it's good when gas prices rise and become less affordable. Yes, having less access to fuel harms people but it's hard to believe that harm is more than the harm of burning fossil fuels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Capitalism burns trough resources too quickly. We should be conserving that oil until we have local food production for everyone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago If you're talking about a total cessation of oil then yeah probably. But I think we could get by on a lot less than we do now, so if it gradually ramped down that would be a clear win for most people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Capitalism burns trough resources too quickly. We should be conserving that oil until we have local food production for everyone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago If you're talking about a total cessation of oil then yeah probably. But I think we could get by on a lot less than we do now, so if it gradually ramped down that would be a clear win for most people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago If you're talking about a total cessation of oil then yeah probably. But I think we could get by on a lot less than we do now, so if it gradually ramped down that would be a clear win for most people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] andresil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Actually, do you have links for all, would be really nice to have evidence to back myself up next time I have to speak to a stupid climate change denier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) In hindsight, I should have attached those right away https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/antarctica-winter-heatwave-hits-record-15-4-c-alarming-scientists/ss-AA25zBRr https://ourworldindata.org/world-lost-one-third-forests https://www.theweek.in/news/health/2023/10/10/study-finds-climate-change-could-render-india-and-the-indus-vall.html https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-made-materials-now-weigh-more-all-life-earth-combined-180976522/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd https://hsph.harvard.edu/climate-health-c-change/news/fossil-fuel-air-pollution-responsible-for-1-in-5-deaths-worldwide/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd They found an average decline of 0.045 milligrams per liter per decade, with 78.8% of rivers in the dataset showing signs of deoxygenation. Wildly different from the given claim. There is nothing in the article that suggest 80% of rivers are currently experiencing hypoxia. This kind of posting invites doomerism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 13 points 1 month ago (1 child) In hindsight, I should have attached those right away https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/antarctica-winter-heatwave-hits-record-15-4-c-alarming-scientists/ss-AA25zBRr https://ourworldindata.org/world-lost-one-third-forests https://www.theweek.in/news/health/2023/10/10/study-finds-climate-change-could-render-india-and-the-indus-vall.html https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-made-materials-now-weigh-more-all-life-earth-combined-180976522/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd https://hsph.harvard.edu/climate-health-c-change/news/fossil-fuel-air-pollution-responsible-for-1-in-5-deaths-worldwide/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd They found an average decline of 0.045 milligrams per liter per decade, with 78.8% of rivers in the dataset showing signs of deoxygenation. Wildly different from the given claim. There is nothing in the article that suggest 80% of rivers are currently experiencing hypoxia. This kind of posting invites doomerism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* https://www.msn.com/en-us/science/environmental-science/nearly-80-of-rivers-are-losing-oxygen-needed-to-support-life-scientists-warn/ar-AA23wiBd They found an average decline of 0.045 milligrams per liter per decade, with 78.8% of rivers in the dataset showing signs of deoxygenation. Wildly different from the given claim. There is nothing in the article that suggest 80% of rivers are currently experiencing hypoxia. This kind of posting invites doomerism. permalink fedilink source parent
