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Safe firearm storage may reduce blood lead levels in children (www.brown.edu)
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[–] 20 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

Depending on where you live, that's not always an option.

For example, if you live out in the boonies or on a farm, guns are great tools for pest control. And in many places, the cops (or animal control) are 30+ minutes away. I've had to shoot more than one rabid animal.

Not to mention hunting.

Not everyone needs a gun, but it makes sense in some circumstances.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yes, but what percentage of people actually need guns?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Somewhere between 14-20% of the US population, depending on how rural is defined.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Hell I'm surrounded by suburbs and live in a good sized city but have a small farm. I've had animals killed by raccoons, hawks. eagles, foxes, coyote, loose dogs and opossums that I know of. I've also seen black bear, and obviously we see lots of deer and other wildlife. That's all in the city. If you drive an hour out you get wild boar too, sometimes I help hunt them because they're so destructive.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I somehow forgot about hogs. They're a significant issue here, and they're super dangerous.

    My step-father was charged by one before. He shot it point blank in the forehead with a 9mm pistol, and the bullet went in the scalp, traveled around the skull and out the back. All it did was stun it long enough for him to grab a rifle out of the gator.

    But I think you'd fall in the definition that puts the number at 20%. That one is basically, "not in a major metropolitan area."

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    When the fascists are taking over? Every man, woman and child.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    "taking" over? 😂

    I lived in the US for 10 years, and I gotta tell you; all the 2A "necessary to the security of a free state" BS I heard juxtaposed against the utterly embarrassing, and cowardly inaction I am seeing now is, disappointing to say the least...

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Exactly! And this is why no one lives in rural areas or farms anywhere else in the world!

    BIIIG /s

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm not sure I follow the sarcasm. Are you saying that the US is the only country where people in rural areas have guns?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    If you went to 1 random farmer's house in 100 different countries, how many do you really believe would own a firearm? Give me your genuine guess, then tell me what the actual statistic is after you look it up...

    Bonus question: how many of them do you think would have a magazine fed, semi-automatic carbine rifle, chambered in an anti-personnel caliber?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You're moving the goalposts.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    No, I'm not. You're attempting to justify the atrocities faced by innocent Americans as some necessary consequence of what I guess you argue is simultaneously a "free", yet dangerously "wild" nation.

    My guess is that you looked up the actual numbers as instructed, realized that NO ONE in the world "needs" firearms to the degree that Americans claim to, and decided it would be easier to try and deflect rather than address the core argument of my position.

    Firearms hurt people. The more firearms there are in any given area, the more likely people are to be hurt by them. The VAST majority (like 85:1) of firearm injuries in the US are either self-inflicted, accidental, or crimes perpetrated against unarmed, innocent civilians.

    Statistically, the instances of problems solved by firearms in the United States represent an effect size so negligible that they frequently fall within the margin of error, barely rising above the threshold of statistical significance.

    US persons owning guns does NOTHING but create problems for US persons. Period.

    If you have a fetish, say so. If you think guns are fun, say so. But don't use bullshit to try and hand wave away an epidemic caused by intellectual impotence and savage amorality.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I think you might need to go take your blood-pressure medication.

    You're responding to points I never once made.

    All I said is that a small subset of the population has a legitimate reason for gun ownership. Hell, even Australia allows it.

    I own two guns. Guess where they are? On my mom's farm because I have no reason to have them in the city.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Wow, you made it 3 whole comments before jumping to ad hominem... Good work kiddo.

    A lack of imagination, or lack of awareness of time tested human survival strategies is not "a legitimate reason"...

    Overstatement of necessity and recency bias are both logical fallacies.

    If you lack the skills, or intellectually require, the problem shortcut firearms provide, just say so... But stop stating your desires and opinions as though they are objective fact.

    Intelligent hominins have sustained and thrived for at least 1,800,000 years without firearms. If YOU can't survive without one that's what we call a YOU problem.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Lol, you're one to talk about ad hominem attacks. Maybe don't criticize someone who was responding to your attacks. It makes you a hypocrite.

    I'm capable of understanding that guns are useful tools when used safely and properly.

    Sure, people survived before guns existed, but people also got killed by wildlife a lot. Go ahead and walk around in hog country unarmed.

    But I never once said that anyone needed a gun, that's just you putting words in my mouth. 90% of your responses to me have been strawmen.

    You've been arguing against things I've never once said, and have been attacking my character based on nothing but your own prejudices.

    Go fuck yourself.

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