▲ 1290 ▼ Thoughts? (lemmy.world) submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by fireweed@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 326 comments fedilink hide all child comments Image description: Text: Amazon's electric cargo bikes have arrived in DC. Image: A four-wheeled vehicle that appears to be a cross between a bicycle, a go-cart, and a mini-truck Response text from high t alpha shemale @gluetaster: that's not a cargo bike man that's a loopholemobile Edit: I found a slightly higher-quality version of the image:
[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I would be fine if we all drove these (and of course the infrastructure was updated to accommodate) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Donkter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) That is exactly the propaganda. There's the classic example that the car safety score is determined by whether the people inside the vehicle survive a crash. That leads to a perverse incentive in which car companies build a larger and more robust car to ensure their passengers survive crashes with no regard for the people they crash into. Since every car company is doing this they have to get bigger and bigger until we get the cars we have today that have to be registered as trucks. These vehicles might be less safe for the drivers in our world of super-trucks, but they are magnitudes safer for pedestrians. I would prefer every effort to normalize smaller vehicles and I think every vehicle like this that's on the road means one less pedestrian-killer and an overall safer experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) From what I read, the reason (at least in US) why we got those big cars was the fuel economy requirements were more relaxed which made automakers who couldn't improve it enough use it as a loophole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago It's both. permalink fedilink source parent [–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago pickups are also protected with tariffs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) That is exactly the propaganda. There's the classic example that the car safety score is determined by whether the people inside the vehicle survive a crash. That leads to a perverse incentive in which car companies build a larger and more robust car to ensure their passengers survive crashes with no regard for the people they crash into. Since every car company is doing this they have to get bigger and bigger until we get the cars we have today that have to be registered as trucks. These vehicles might be less safe for the drivers in our world of super-trucks, but they are magnitudes safer for pedestrians. I would prefer every effort to normalize smaller vehicles and I think every vehicle like this that's on the road means one less pedestrian-killer and an overall safer experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) From what I read, the reason (at least in US) why we got those big cars was the fuel economy requirements were more relaxed which made automakers who couldn't improve it enough use it as a loophole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago It's both. permalink fedilink source parent [–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago pickups are also protected with tariffs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) From what I read, the reason (at least in US) why we got those big cars was the fuel economy requirements were more relaxed which made automakers who couldn't improve it enough use it as a loophole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago It's both. permalink fedilink source parent [–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago pickups are also protected with tariffs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago pickups are also protected with tariffs permalink fedilink source parent