▲ 379 ▼ At Least 260 Killed At Israeli Music Festival In Hamas Attack (www.forbes.com) submitted 2 years ago by Imhotep@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 83 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] drekly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) Hmm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I know. Hamas is bad at killing Israelis. But they keep trying it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're also very good at using human shields. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago If there is 6000 people in a square kilometre you can always blame the use of "human shields" to distract from the fact that you are bombing densely populated area and your "surgical strikes" are not that surgical. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hmmm, there is more documented evidence of Israel using human shields (and having to make it "illegal" to keep using Palestinians as human shields but it still happens and many get away with it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hamas propaganda videos don't count as documented evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago No, it's not frim Hamas propaganda videos. It's every human rights organization. Here is a full history of how they had to outlaw it: https://www.btselem.org/human_shields It was part of Israel law. Totally legal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ah, I'm "lawyering around about historical shit" (historical being within a lifetime) but I'm the one with a cold dead soul because hundreds of "the good people" who stole the land died, and you're the one with a heart of gold who thinks it's lol-worthy and likes to make jokes when tens of thousands of "the bad people" die fighting for their stolen land. Let me know when you want to attempt to argue in good faith, because as I said from the beginning I'm not well educated on the subject, and your tactics are failing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there you go, dehumanizing the victims and justifying their murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you trying to guess what my reply would be? If not, you seriously need to look in the mirror bud. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They are horrific and should all be taken care of.. take that how you will. Palestinians and Israel is should be able to live in peace. This much is self evident and shouldn't be up for debate like you're trying to do. But Israel lobbing back over bombs and killing innocent civilians is the Spider-Man pointing at himself meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Then the Gazans need to stop sheltering Hamas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drekly@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago Sounds familiar permalink fedilink source parent [–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago The worst part of this graph is that it only goes back to 2008. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ReverseThePolarity@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if you encountered a criminal holding an innocent person hostage, you would shoot the hostage on the off chance that you might also hit the criminal. You would then shoot the paramedic trying to save the hostages' life. Your version of the trolley problem must be pretty wack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you couldnt have a sillier interpretation of your own fantasy scenario. I would shoot for the criminal. Who, being the peice of shit he is, like Hamas, is likely to throw the hostage into the line of fire and whine about how much of a monster you are. You're version of the trolley problem is as cooked as the wheels on woolies trollies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Why just not shoot them, go home, regroup, work on super surgical drone attacks? permalink fedilink source parent [–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago What does cooker mean? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) I know. Hamas is bad at killing Israelis. But they keep trying it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're also very good at using human shields. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago If there is 6000 people in a square kilometre you can always blame the use of "human shields" to distract from the fact that you are bombing densely populated area and your "surgical strikes" are not that surgical. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hmmm, there is more documented evidence of Israel using human shields (and having to make it "illegal" to keep using Palestinians as human shields but it still happens and many get away with it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hamas propaganda videos don't count as documented evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago No, it's not frim Hamas propaganda videos. It's every human rights organization. Here is a full history of how they had to outlaw it: https://www.btselem.org/human_shields It was part of Israel law. Totally legal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ah, I'm "lawyering around about historical shit" (historical being within a lifetime) but I'm the one with a cold dead soul because hundreds of "the good people" who stole the land died, and you're the one with a heart of gold who thinks it's lol-worthy and likes to make jokes when tens of thousands of "the bad people" die fighting for their stolen land. Let me know when you want to attempt to argue in good faith, because as I said from the beginning I'm not well educated on the subject, and your tactics are failing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there you go, dehumanizing the victims and justifying their murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you trying to guess what my reply would be? If not, you seriously need to look in the mirror bud. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They are horrific and should all be taken care of.. take that how you will. Palestinians and Israel is should be able to live in peace. This much is self evident and shouldn't be up for debate like you're trying to do. But Israel lobbing back over bombs and killing innocent civilians is the Spider-Man pointing at himself meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Then the Gazans need to stop sheltering Hamas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drekly@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago Sounds familiar permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're also very good at using human shields. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago If there is 6000 people in a square kilometre you can always blame the use of "human shields" to distract from the fact that you are bombing densely populated area and your "surgical strikes" are not that surgical. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hmmm, there is more documented evidence of Israel using human shields (and having to make it "illegal" to keep using Palestinians as human shields but it still happens and many get away with it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hamas propaganda videos don't count as documented evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago No, it's not frim Hamas propaganda videos. It's every human rights organization. Here is a full history of how they had to outlaw it: https://www.btselem.org/human_shields It was part of Israel law. Totally legal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago If there is 6000 people in a square kilometre you can always blame the use of "human shields" to distract from the fact that you are bombing densely populated area and your "surgical strikes" are not that surgical. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hmmm, there is more documented evidence of Israel using human shields (and having to make it "illegal" to keep using Palestinians as human shields but it still happens and many get away with it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hamas propaganda videos don't count as documented evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago No, it's not frim Hamas propaganda videos. It's every human rights organization. Here is a full history of how they had to outlaw it: https://www.btselem.org/human_shields It was part of Israel law. Totally legal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hamas propaganda videos don't count as documented evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago No, it's not frim Hamas propaganda videos. It's every human rights organization. Here is a full history of how they had to outlaw it: https://www.btselem.org/human_shields It was part of Israel law. Totally legal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago No, it's not frim Hamas propaganda videos. It's every human rights organization. Here is a full history of how they had to outlaw it: https://www.btselem.org/human_shields It was part of Israel law. Totally legal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ah, I'm "lawyering around about historical shit" (historical being within a lifetime) but I'm the one with a cold dead soul because hundreds of "the good people" who stole the land died, and you're the one with a heart of gold who thinks it's lol-worthy and likes to make jokes when tens of thousands of "the bad people" die fighting for their stolen land. Let me know when you want to attempt to argue in good faith, because as I said from the beginning I'm not well educated on the subject, and your tactics are failing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there you go, dehumanizing the victims and justifying their murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you trying to guess what my reply would be? If not, you seriously need to look in the mirror bud. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They are horrific and should all be taken care of.. take that how you will. Palestinians and Israel is should be able to live in peace. This much is self evident and shouldn't be up for debate like you're trying to do. But Israel lobbing back over bombs and killing innocent civilians is the Spider-Man pointing at himself meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Then the Gazans need to stop sheltering Hamas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drekly@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago Sounds familiar permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) And there you go, dehumanizing the victims and justifying their murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you trying to guess what my reply would be? If not, you seriously need to look in the mirror bud. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They are horrific and should all be taken care of.. take that how you will. Palestinians and Israel is should be able to live in peace. This much is self evident and shouldn't be up for debate like you're trying to do. But Israel lobbing back over bombs and killing innocent civilians is the Spider-Man pointing at himself meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Then the Gazans need to stop sheltering Hamas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] drekly@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago Sounds familiar permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are you trying to guess what my reply would be? If not, you seriously need to look in the mirror bud. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They are horrific and should all be taken care of.. take that how you will. Palestinians and Israel is should be able to live in peace. This much is self evident and shouldn't be up for debate like you're trying to do. But Israel lobbing back over bombs and killing innocent civilians is the Spider-Man pointing at himself meme. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Then the Gazans need to stop sheltering Hamas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Then the Gazans need to stop sheltering Hamas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago The worst part of this graph is that it only goes back to 2008. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jcit878@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ReverseThePolarity@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if you encountered a criminal holding an innocent person hostage, you would shoot the hostage on the off chance that you might also hit the criminal. You would then shoot the paramedic trying to save the hostages' life. Your version of the trolley problem must be pretty wack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you couldnt have a sillier interpretation of your own fantasy scenario. I would shoot for the criminal. Who, being the peice of shit he is, like Hamas, is likely to throw the hostage into the line of fire and whine about how much of a monster you are. You're version of the trolley problem is as cooked as the wheels on woolies trollies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Why just not shoot them, go home, regroup, work on super surgical drone attacks? permalink fedilink source parent [–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago What does cooker mean? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReverseThePolarity@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So if you encountered a criminal holding an innocent person hostage, you would shoot the hostage on the off chance that you might also hit the criminal. You would then shoot the paramedic trying to save the hostages' life. Your version of the trolley problem must be pretty wack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you couldnt have a sillier interpretation of your own fantasy scenario. I would shoot for the criminal. Who, being the peice of shit he is, like Hamas, is likely to throw the hostage into the line of fire and whine about how much of a monster you are. You're version of the trolley problem is as cooked as the wheels on woolies trollies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Why just not shoot them, go home, regroup, work on super surgical drone attacks? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you couldnt have a sillier interpretation of your own fantasy scenario. I would shoot for the criminal. Who, being the peice of shit he is, like Hamas, is likely to throw the hostage into the line of fire and whine about how much of a monster you are. You're version of the trolley problem is as cooked as the wheels on woolies trollies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Why just not shoot them, go home, regroup, work on super surgical drone attacks? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Why just not shoot them, go home, regroup, work on super surgical drone attacks? permalink fedilink source parent