▲ 509 ▼ Russia Can No Longer Take More Land Than Ukraine Liberates, Zelenskyy Says (united24media.com) submitted 2 months ago by EatingOnions@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 143 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] mattyroses@lemmy.today -6 points 2 months ago (1 child) It doesn't confuse me. It doesn't mean what you think it does, as Ukraine is not a template. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Look, take it easy. I know you are a kid, because you lack the self-confidence to ask people what they mean (and you shared a cartoon). But I can tell you, people that ask look way smarter than people that try to make it into a weird confrontation. Today you can just paste stuff into chatgpt or something and let it explain and for sure write a better response than you did, no offense. Plus, if you want an honest exchange of opinion, you must likely won't get it with an arrogant behavior, but by taking a few minutes and replying with something thoughtful. You got my 10 minutes, but that's done. Have a nice evening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm middle-aged. You're on quite a roll here. Just don't use words you don't understand, it's a bad look. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) How embarassing then. Anyways what people are refusing to tell you (because it's obvious) is that being at the center of a paradigm and being at the center of a geographical landmass are different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine is neither the center geographically nor strategically of any defense of the EU. being at the center of a paradigm Yeah, once again, you don't know what that word means. I suggest you look it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, double-checked the definition, it means exactly what I thought it does. You're going to have to explain your argument like an adult if you want me to respond further to explain how you are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) it means exactly what I thought it does Oh, OK. What is the replicable pattern of "defense" that is Ukraine, then? You seem to mean strategy. Ukraine is not the center of European defense strategy, but at least that word isn't just nonsense. to explain your argument like an adult Yes, this does feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) The beat you can do is "no u"? Anyways /uj for a second, "paradigm" has more than one definition. I think you're using a different one than we were, which is roughly "a method or framework for thought". A paradigm is a way of thinking about something, or a set of tools and methods used to do so. This is the definition used in the phrase "paradigm shift" and is pretty common; it overlaps with, but is different to, using "paradigm" to refer to an exceptional example of something to replicate. Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Look, take it easy. I know you are a kid, because you lack the self-confidence to ask people what they mean (and you shared a cartoon). But I can tell you, people that ask look way smarter than people that try to make it into a weird confrontation. Today you can just paste stuff into chatgpt or something and let it explain and for sure write a better response than you did, no offense. Plus, if you want an honest exchange of opinion, you must likely won't get it with an arrogant behavior, but by taking a few minutes and replying with something thoughtful. You got my 10 minutes, but that's done. Have a nice evening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm middle-aged. You're on quite a roll here. Just don't use words you don't understand, it's a bad look. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) How embarassing then. Anyways what people are refusing to tell you (because it's obvious) is that being at the center of a paradigm and being at the center of a geographical landmass are different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine is neither the center geographically nor strategically of any defense of the EU. being at the center of a paradigm Yeah, once again, you don't know what that word means. I suggest you look it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, double-checked the definition, it means exactly what I thought it does. You're going to have to explain your argument like an adult if you want me to respond further to explain how you are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) it means exactly what I thought it does Oh, OK. What is the replicable pattern of "defense" that is Ukraine, then? You seem to mean strategy. Ukraine is not the center of European defense strategy, but at least that word isn't just nonsense. to explain your argument like an adult Yes, this does feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) The beat you can do is "no u"? Anyways /uj for a second, "paradigm" has more than one definition. I think you're using a different one than we were, which is roughly "a method or framework for thought". A paradigm is a way of thinking about something, or a set of tools and methods used to do so. This is the definition used in the phrase "paradigm shift" and is pretty common; it overlaps with, but is different to, using "paradigm" to refer to an exceptional example of something to replicate. Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm middle-aged. You're on quite a roll here. Just don't use words you don't understand, it's a bad look. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) How embarassing then. Anyways what people are refusing to tell you (because it's obvious) is that being at the center of a paradigm and being at the center of a geographical landmass are different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine is neither the center geographically nor strategically of any defense of the EU. being at the center of a paradigm Yeah, once again, you don't know what that word means. I suggest you look it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, double-checked the definition, it means exactly what I thought it does. You're going to have to explain your argument like an adult if you want me to respond further to explain how you are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) it means exactly what I thought it does Oh, OK. What is the replicable pattern of "defense" that is Ukraine, then? You seem to mean strategy. Ukraine is not the center of European defense strategy, but at least that word isn't just nonsense. to explain your argument like an adult Yes, this does feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) The beat you can do is "no u"? Anyways /uj for a second, "paradigm" has more than one definition. I think you're using a different one than we were, which is roughly "a method or framework for thought". A paradigm is a way of thinking about something, or a set of tools and methods used to do so. This is the definition used in the phrase "paradigm shift" and is pretty common; it overlaps with, but is different to, using "paradigm" to refer to an exceptional example of something to replicate. Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) How embarassing then. Anyways what people are refusing to tell you (because it's obvious) is that being at the center of a paradigm and being at the center of a geographical landmass are different things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine is neither the center geographically nor strategically of any defense of the EU. being at the center of a paradigm Yeah, once again, you don't know what that word means. I suggest you look it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, double-checked the definition, it means exactly what I thought it does. You're going to have to explain your argument like an adult if you want me to respond further to explain how you are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) it means exactly what I thought it does Oh, OK. What is the replicable pattern of "defense" that is Ukraine, then? You seem to mean strategy. Ukraine is not the center of European defense strategy, but at least that word isn't just nonsense. to explain your argument like an adult Yes, this does feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) The beat you can do is "no u"? Anyways /uj for a second, "paradigm" has more than one definition. I think you're using a different one than we were, which is roughly "a method or framework for thought". A paradigm is a way of thinking about something, or a set of tools and methods used to do so. This is the definition used in the phrase "paradigm shift" and is pretty common; it overlaps with, but is different to, using "paradigm" to refer to an exceptional example of something to replicate. Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine is neither the center geographically nor strategically of any defense of the EU. being at the center of a paradigm Yeah, once again, you don't know what that word means. I suggest you look it up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, double-checked the definition, it means exactly what I thought it does. You're going to have to explain your argument like an adult if you want me to respond further to explain how you are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) it means exactly what I thought it does Oh, OK. What is the replicable pattern of "defense" that is Ukraine, then? You seem to mean strategy. Ukraine is not the center of European defense strategy, but at least that word isn't just nonsense. to explain your argument like an adult Yes, this does feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) The beat you can do is "no u"? Anyways /uj for a second, "paradigm" has more than one definition. I think you're using a different one than we were, which is roughly "a method or framework for thought". A paradigm is a way of thinking about something, or a set of tools and methods used to do so. This is the definition used in the phrase "paradigm shift" and is pretty common; it overlaps with, but is different to, using "paradigm" to refer to an exceptional example of something to replicate. Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, double-checked the definition, it means exactly what I thought it does. You're going to have to explain your argument like an adult if you want me to respond further to explain how you are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) it means exactly what I thought it does Oh, OK. What is the replicable pattern of "defense" that is Ukraine, then? You seem to mean strategy. Ukraine is not the center of European defense strategy, but at least that word isn't just nonsense. to explain your argument like an adult Yes, this does feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) The beat you can do is "no u"? Anyways /uj for a second, "paradigm" has more than one definition. I think you're using a different one than we were, which is roughly "a method or framework for thought". A paradigm is a way of thinking about something, or a set of tools and methods used to do so. This is the definition used in the phrase "paradigm shift" and is pretty common; it overlaps with, but is different to, using "paradigm" to refer to an exceptional example of something to replicate. Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) it means exactly what I thought it does Oh, OK. What is the replicable pattern of "defense" that is Ukraine, then? You seem to mean strategy. Ukraine is not the center of European defense strategy, but at least that word isn't just nonsense. to explain your argument like an adult Yes, this does feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) The beat you can do is "no u"? Anyways /uj for a second, "paradigm" has more than one definition. I think you're using a different one than we were, which is roughly "a method or framework for thought". A paradigm is a way of thinking about something, or a set of tools and methods used to do so. This is the definition used in the phrase "paradigm shift" and is pretty common; it overlaps with, but is different to, using "paradigm" to refer to an exceptional example of something to replicate. Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) The beat you can do is "no u"? Anyways /uj for a second, "paradigm" has more than one definition. I think you're using a different one than we were, which is roughly "a method or framework for thought". A paradigm is a way of thinking about something, or a set of tools and methods used to do so. This is the definition used in the phrase "paradigm shift" and is pretty common; it overlaps with, but is different to, using "paradigm" to refer to an exceptional example of something to replicate. Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* Saying Ukraine will be at the center of the european defense paradigm means that it will be used as a foundational point of reference when discussing defense, and its capabilities will be key to our defense strategy. And again, that is meaningless unless you're claiming you will replicate Ukraine's defense in other places. Nor is Ukraine "foundational", unless you think that all of Europe is a former part of the USSR that was also the center of WWII against the Russian state of the time. If you'd like to suggest some other country that fits that "paradigm", I'm all ears. Ukraine isn't foundational - it's a proxy war now abandoned by the US that too much of Europe has decided to let anchor it. permalink fedilink source parent