▲ 509 ▼ Russia Can No Longer Take More Land Than Ukraine Liberates, Zelenskyy Says (united24media.com) submitted 2 months ago by EatingOnions@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 143 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children) Europe includes Ukraine, and they are already allies, just without a mutual defense agreement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine is not a member of any defense pact or the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine receives security assurances under the Budapest memorandum (which Russia violated). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago "Europe" is not a signatory to the Budapest memorandum. Neither is NATO, nor the EU. So how this applies to "Europe", which is what the conversation you're responding to is about, is a mystery at best. The UK and US are signatories. NATO is not. Considering that NATO willfully violated the UN Charter (which the Budapest memorandum rests upon) by bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, as well as later actions, it's a pretty selective to claim that that is applicable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Europe also includes Russia permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -5 points 2 months ago So Europe is supposed to support Ukraine against . . . Europe? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine is not a member of any defense pact or the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine receives security assurances under the Budapest memorandum (which Russia violated). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago "Europe" is not a signatory to the Budapest memorandum. Neither is NATO, nor the EU. So how this applies to "Europe", which is what the conversation you're responding to is about, is a mystery at best. The UK and US are signatories. NATO is not. Considering that NATO willfully violated the UN Charter (which the Budapest memorandum rests upon) by bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, as well as later actions, it's a pretty selective to claim that that is applicable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Ukraine receives security assurances under the Budapest memorandum (which Russia violated). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago "Europe" is not a signatory to the Budapest memorandum. Neither is NATO, nor the EU. So how this applies to "Europe", which is what the conversation you're responding to is about, is a mystery at best. The UK and US are signatories. NATO is not. Considering that NATO willfully violated the UN Charter (which the Budapest memorandum rests upon) by bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, as well as later actions, it's a pretty selective to claim that that is applicable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago "Europe" is not a signatory to the Budapest memorandum. Neither is NATO, nor the EU. So how this applies to "Europe", which is what the conversation you're responding to is about, is a mystery at best. The UK and US are signatories. NATO is not. Considering that NATO willfully violated the UN Charter (which the Budapest memorandum rests upon) by bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, as well as later actions, it's a pretty selective to claim that that is applicable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Europe also includes Russia permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -5 points 2 months ago So Europe is supposed to support Ukraine against . . . Europe? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -5 points 2 months ago So Europe is supposed to support Ukraine against . . . Europe? permalink fedilink source parent