▲ 101 ▼ Maine Senator responds to claim from challenger Graham Platner that she sent him to die in Iraq: "That was Platner's decision to serve. He was not drafted" (cdn.imgchest.com) submitted 2 months ago* by Wuddi@lemmy.zip to c/politics@lemmy.world 36 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5900413-collins-responds-to-platner/
[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 child) While technically true. She's still the dumb bitch that voted to subject the troops to it. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children) Enlisting to serve does NOT mean you should expect a war of CHOICE. Iraq had nothing to do with anything, and this old bag CHOSE to send people to die there. Not because we had to, because SHE wanted to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Oh absolutely. Which is why I still pointed out that she was the one that voted to subject him to it. No one should sign up to fight in the army of the capitalist. Or any other authoritarian group drunk on power regardless of what economic dogma they spout. But once you sign up you cannot easily resist them using and abusing you in wars of choice like that without severe consequences. It's still on her as it always has been and always should be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) If you are American it 100% does. Why would you think the moment you signed up would be the moment they would stop starting wars suddenly? I mean, fuck senator Collins obviously, what an awful ghoul, but she's correct in this case. Anyone signing up to be in the military has to own what they're signing up to do and it's not like there's no way to know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] criscodisco@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago Yep and platner joined after the iraq war already started specifically to fight in it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I don't think it's right but you sign away your rights to those expectations when you enlist for the most part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago Except Platner joined after the iraq war started specifically to fight in it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I just wish more soldiers understood that Democrats are anti-war, because they are pro-soldier. Republicans are pro-war, because they consider soldiers stupid cattle asking to be slaughtered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Except democrats aren't anti war at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago Well, the left side of the party is. Unfortunately the right wing of the Democrats are better funded. Thanks AIPAC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children) Enlisting to serve does NOT mean you should expect a war of CHOICE. Iraq had nothing to do with anything, and this old bag CHOSE to send people to die there. Not because we had to, because SHE wanted to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Oh absolutely. Which is why I still pointed out that she was the one that voted to subject him to it. No one should sign up to fight in the army of the capitalist. Or any other authoritarian group drunk on power regardless of what economic dogma they spout. But once you sign up you cannot easily resist them using and abusing you in wars of choice like that without severe consequences. It's still on her as it always has been and always should be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) If you are American it 100% does. Why would you think the moment you signed up would be the moment they would stop starting wars suddenly? I mean, fuck senator Collins obviously, what an awful ghoul, but she's correct in this case. Anyone signing up to be in the military has to own what they're signing up to do and it's not like there's no way to know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] criscodisco@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago Yep and platner joined after the iraq war already started specifically to fight in it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I don't think it's right but you sign away your rights to those expectations when you enlist for the most part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago Except Platner joined after the iraq war started specifically to fight in it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I just wish more soldiers understood that Democrats are anti-war, because they are pro-soldier. Republicans are pro-war, because they consider soldiers stupid cattle asking to be slaughtered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Except democrats aren't anti war at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago Well, the left side of the party is. Unfortunately the right wing of the Democrats are better funded. Thanks AIPAC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Oh absolutely. Which is why I still pointed out that she was the one that voted to subject him to it. No one should sign up to fight in the army of the capitalist. Or any other authoritarian group drunk on power regardless of what economic dogma they spout. But once you sign up you cannot easily resist them using and abusing you in wars of choice like that without severe consequences. It's still on her as it always has been and always should be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) If you are American it 100% does. Why would you think the moment you signed up would be the moment they would stop starting wars suddenly? I mean, fuck senator Collins obviously, what an awful ghoul, but she's correct in this case. Anyone signing up to be in the military has to own what they're signing up to do and it's not like there's no way to know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] criscodisco@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago Yep and platner joined after the iraq war already started specifically to fight in it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago Yep and platner joined after the iraq war already started specifically to fight in it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I don't think it's right but you sign away your rights to those expectations when you enlist for the most part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago Except Platner joined after the iraq war started specifically to fight in it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I just wish more soldiers understood that Democrats are anti-war, because they are pro-soldier. Republicans are pro-war, because they consider soldiers stupid cattle asking to be slaughtered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Except democrats aren't anti war at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago Well, the left side of the party is. Unfortunately the right wing of the Democrats are better funded. Thanks AIPAC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Except democrats aren't anti war at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago Well, the left side of the party is. Unfortunately the right wing of the Democrats are better funded. Thanks AIPAC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago Well, the left side of the party is. Unfortunately the right wing of the Democrats are better funded. Thanks AIPAC. permalink fedilink source parent